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Old 05-21-2010 | 10:24 AM
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Carrera S II Wheel Question

I have a wheel question I'm hoping someone can help me with. I'm interested in getting the Carrera S II wheel (2009 wheel, see pic below) for a 997S (Narrow Body). I want the wheels to fill in the wells as nicely as possible, but don't want to run spacers. I understand there are 2 versions of this one, one that has different offsets for the rear, for the C4 Wide Body application.

My question is, will I be able to run the C4 Wide Body version of this wheel on a 997 Narrow Body? (specifically, will the rears fit in the Narrow Body wheel wells)?

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Old 05-21-2010 | 10:33 AM
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I don't think there is a difference, my understanding is the widebodies on the Carrera S II wheel just use a spacer if I remember correctly. Did you contact Wheel Enhancement if there are 2 rear offsets? If there is you should have no problem. A lot of people that end up with aftermarket wheels end up with a 52-54mm offset anyway which is where you would be vs. he 67mm for the NB.

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the rear Carrera S II wheels for the wide-bodied are 305/30 vs 295/30 for the narrow-bodied?
 
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it will fit nicely.
wide body rear wheels have different offset.
 
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Old 05-21-2010 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by TooSixy
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the rear Carrera S II wheels for the wide-bodied are 305/30 vs 295/30 for the narrow-bodied?
you are mixing apples andoranges. default stock 18" narrowbody wheels are 8" wide fronts and 10" wide rears.

Here is copy from owner manual:
Summer tires*
front 235/40 ZR 18 (91Y) 8 J x 18 H2 57 mm 58.5 in./1486 mm
rear 265/40 ZR 18 (101Y) XL 10 J x 18 H2 58 mm 60.4 in./1534 mm

or
front 235/35 ZR 19 (87Y) 8 J x 19 H2 57 mm 58.5 in./1486 mm
rear 295/30 ZR 19 (100Y) XL 11 J x 19 H2 67 mm 59.7 in./1516 mm

or
front 235/35 ZR 19 (87Y) 8.5 J x 19 H2 55 mm 58.7 in./1490 mm
rear 305/30 ZR 19 (102Y) XL 11.5 J x 19 H2 67 mm 59.7 in./1516 mm

Snow tires
front 235/40 R 18 91V M+S 8 J x 18 H2 57 mm 58.5 in./1486 mm
rear 265/40 R 18 97V M+S
1) 10 J x 18 H2 58 mm 60.4 in./1534 mm

or
front 235/35 R 19 87V M+S 8 J x 19 H2 57 mm 58.5 in./1486 mm

rear 295/30 R 19 100V XL M+S 11 J x 19 H2 67 mm 59.7 in./1516 mm

It has all the offsets for narrow body ones. Now below is same info for C4/C4S widebody.
Note offsets changes:
Summer tires*
front 235/40 ZR 18 (91Y) 8 J x 18 H2 57 mm 58.6 in./1488 mm
rear 295/35 ZR 18 (99Y) 11 J x 18 H2 51 mm 60.9 in./1548 mm
or front 235/35 ZR 19 (87Y) 8 J x 19 H2 57 mm 58.6 in./1488 mm
rear 305/30 ZR 19 (102Y) XL 11 J x 19 H2 51 mm 60.9 in./1548 mm
or front 235/35 ZR 19 (87Y) 8.5 J x 19 H2 55 mm 58.7 in./1492 mm
rear 305/30 ZR 19 (102Y) XL 11.5 J x 19 H2** 67 mm 61.0 in./1550 mm

Snow tires
front 235/40 R 18 91V M+S 8 J x 18 H2 57 mm 58.6 in./1488 mm
rear 295/35 R 18 99V M+S
1) 11 J x 18 H2 51 mm 60.9 in./1548 mm
or front 235/35 R 19 87V M+S 8 J x 19 H2 57 mm 58.6 in./1488 mm

rear 295/30 R 19 100V XL M+S
1) 11 J x 19 H2 51 mm 60.9 in./1548 mm

From practical perspective you can stretch those rules, say, I run on hoosiers 245/295 on stock 18" 8"/10" rims - so tires do fit.

11" wide 19" rims would want 305mm tires. for 305mm rears you would want 245mm fronts, not 235 - check 305 tire diameter and compare how it differs from 295 - you generally need to try to maintain same ratio as it was for stock 235/295 tires diameters.

295mm is a bit narrow for 11" wide rims.
 
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not sure if they widebody spec versions of the rears are available, but, as mentioned above, call wheel enhancement and see (1) if there is a widebody version or if the widebody cars just use a spacer and (2) if they have any available. That's what I did with my wheels - I bought the widebody offset rears. See my thread here for pictures:

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...-classics.html






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thanks everyone for the responses! P Diddy-- those wide rears look awesome.

I am definitely going the more aggressive offset route for the rears. After I talk to Wheel Enhancement I'll update this post.
 
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not sure if they widebody spec versions of the rears are available, but, as mentioned above, call wheel enhancement and see (1) if there is a widebody version or if the widebody cars just use a spacer and (2) if they have any available. That's what I did with my wheels - I bought the widebody offset rears. See my thread here for pictures:

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...-classics.html


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The classics are offered in 2 offsets, but I don't think the standard S wheels are.

BTW, those look awesome with those offsets. Some people feel that is too agressive but I love the look
 
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Originally Posted by drifter12
I have a wheel question I'm hoping someone can help me with. I'm interested in getting the Carrera S II wheel (2009 wheel, see pic below) for a 997S (Narrow Body). I want the wheels to fill in the wells as nicely as possible, but don't want to run spacers. I understand there are 2 versions of this one, one that has different offsets for the rear, for the C4 Wide Body application.

My question is, will I be able to run the C4 Wide Body version of this wheel on a 997 Narrow Body? (specifically, will the rears fit in the Narrow Body wheel wells)?

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If you run spacers, you will be even more pleased with the way it looks. I guarantee it!
 
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Yes, the wheel comes in 2 rear offsets and the tires on the WB are also spec'd as 305s - see the Tequipment catalog on the Porsche USA site:

19-inch Carrera S II

wheels with summer tyres

NB:
Front: 8J x 19 ET 57 Front: 235/35 ZR 19 (Y)

Rear: 11J x 19 ET 67 Rear: 295/30 ZR 19 (Y)

WB:
Front: 8J x 19 ET 57 Front: 235/35 ZR 19 (Y)

Rear: 11J x 19 ET 51 Rear: 305/30 ZR 19 (Y)

In the pics posted from p diddy, the rears look to hang about 1/4-3/8 beyond the fenders on pic #4 from the rear. I don't think I'd be into that, although otherwise the car looks great. Not sure if that is from running 305s or not.

The difference between a 15mm spacer and a 16mm offset diff should not be noticeable. So if not the tires, then maybe that is not the ideal setup. I can see why PAG specs it for 5mm spacers with NB wheels as that would pull that tire in just under the lip if those pics are an indication.
 
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I talked to Wheel Enhancement and confirmed that the WB fitment (11" rear et51 offset) will work with NB cars as long as a 295/30/19 tire is used and the car isnt lowered. I'll probably be going this route.
 
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Old 06-03-2010 | 11:15 PM
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Thumbs up. You will enjoy them. There is a thread some where with someone running WB Carrera II's on his NB. They look fantastic. I also think they will work just fine with a moderate drop with some eibach springs. This is the route I might be going except with Carrera Sport wheels.
 
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Old 06-04-2010 | 01:43 AM
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cool i have to find that thread. Love the Carrera Sports also. It was either those or the Carerra S IIs!

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Thumbs up. You will enjoy them. There is a thread some where with someone running WB Carrera II's on his NB. They look fantastic. I also think they will work just fine with a moderate drop with some eibach springs. This is the route I might be going except with Carrera Sport wheels.
 
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if anyone can find the thread with the WB Carrera S II wheel on an NB car can you please post a link? I cannot seem to find it.
 
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