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Old 06-06-2010, 08:47 PM
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PDK reduces residual value?

Did anyone hear about this? Is it true that adding pdk to a carrera drops its residual value by 1%?
 
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Not true...but 6 speed manual is worth more.
 
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I'm quite surprised especially considering all the worldwide praise for this dual clutch transmission, which could be the wave of the future.
 
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Did anyone hear about this? Is it true that adding pdk to a carrera drops its residual value by 1%?
I don't know but it would make sense . PDK is poised to evolve and a manual will most likely remain the same.
 
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Is 1% really a big deal? Or even measurable? $600 on a $60k car...
 
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I kinda like math, and am interested in stats, etc. I wonder how they're doing the math on this...

What is the cost of PDK? (I can't find that easily and don't want to bother looking too hard.)
Assuming it's $2k.
For manual, on a $100k car that depreciates 40% over some period of time, that's a $60k car.
For PDK, assume the car is $102k, and 41% depreciation would be $60,180, still more than the manual. That's about $1k more depreciation from original sticker, if it were subject to the same 40% rate...
 
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Its true for leasing in Canada. Dealer told me its because after a few years, they don't expect a used consumer to be willing to pay much of a premium for PDK. They also have a limit to the dollar value of options that they're willing to residualize. I can't remember the amount, but you can hit it pretty quickly once you add full leather and all the nav/stereo options.
 
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PDK on my car was $4K. So it is easy to imagine in the long haul, that number gets largely erased away for pre-owned cars as do most non-essential options.

Don't care though. Cars lose value - it is what it is. To get any value out of a car like this, you have to drive it and enjoy it. Do that and you get what you paid for.
 
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pdk on my car was $4k. So it is easy to imagine in the long haul, that number gets largely erased away for pre-owned cars as do most non-essential options.

Don't care though. Cars lose value - it is what it is. To get any value out of a car like this, you have to drive it and enjoy it. Do that and you get what you paid for.
agreed 100% :d
 
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I would guess that much of it has to do with long-term reliability and maintenance. the manual is unbeatable with regard to reliability, whereas the reliability of dual-clutch transmissions remains to be seen. This becomes a potential concern when the warranty lapses.
 
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I would guess that much of it has to do with long-term reliability and maintenance. the manual is unbeatable with regard to reliability, whereas the reliability of dual-clutch transmissions remains to be seen. This becomes a potential concern when the warranty lapses.
It appears that you have not been around Porsche trannies a long time... nothing is bullet proof. Over time, there's as much maintenance with the clutch/6speed combo as there will be with PDK.

The residual diff has only to do that options affect residuals. Want high residuals? get a base no-options car.
 
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It appears that you have not been around Porsche trannies a long time... nothing is bullet proof. Over time, there's as much maintenance with the clutch/6speed combo as there will be with PDK.
In all my reading & research, this is my perception as well, maybe even more $$ spent for the 6-spd manual in the long haul.
 
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Speaking of residuals, anyone have a clue when porsche will release the residuals for the 2011 model year carreras?
 
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