The track, where it belongs?
#17
06-22-2010, 05:41 AM
I've been driving on the track for 10 years. DEs from PCA, BMWCCA, etc. I did a few years of PCA club racing. I smashed up my street/track 911 about 8 years ago at Watkins Glen. $17k damage - I paid for the repairs out of my pocket - no insurance. I have a dedicated track car now, a 944. I instruct for both PCA and BMWCCA DEs. I've seen all kinds of stuff on the track - a Rabbit wagon (El Camino style) that rips it up at Road Atlanta, a Ford Excursion, Crown Vics, etc. I've been on track with a 962 and other awesome cars. I've met all kinds of drivers.
With that said, my attitude is - different strokes for different folks. I try not to tell people what to do unless they ask my opinion. I feel that learning to drive on the track is like learning to drive all over again. I think that the skills you learn on the track (hard braking, spin avoidance, etc) can be useful on the street. I think anyone could take almost any car (the Excursion was a hazard and I complained) onto the track for a DE weekend or two. As I said earlier - driving on the track is tons of fun! It can be a great couple event as well - my wife and I did many events together early on. They don't usually get dangerous until the driver is more experienced. Several 'track' mods are also beneficial on the street, and sometimes the reverse is true. to each his own. /IMHO
Not sure if that adds anything to the conversation - sorry if it's just wasted space -
With that said, my attitude is - different strokes for different folks. I try not to tell people what to do unless they ask my opinion. I feel that learning to drive on the track is like learning to drive all over again. I think that the skills you learn on the track (hard braking, spin avoidance, etc) can be useful on the street. I think anyone could take almost any car (the Excursion was a hazard and I complained) onto the track for a DE weekend or two. As I said earlier - driving on the track is tons of fun! It can be a great couple event as well - my wife and I did many events together early on. They don't usually get dangerous until the driver is more experienced. Several 'track' mods are also beneficial on the street, and sometimes the reverse is true. to each his own. /IMHO
Not sure if that adds anything to the conversation - sorry if it's just wasted space -
#18
06-22-2010, 09:53 AM
"I personally appreciate my 997 when its on the track and I appreciate my tdi golf on the street. Do many agree with what I did to my 997S. NO... but then again its my car and I dont care what they think.... "
Mobonic, I think what you did to your car is great... if I could afford it, I would have a dedicated track car as well.
Mobonic, I think what you did to your car is great... if I could afford it, I would have a dedicated track car as well.
#19
06-22-2010, 10:07 AM
Now i see a young guy like Sin911 --he has a chance at this. He started young and if he goes all the time he'll probably be real good if he sticks with it.
I didn't get my first Porsche 911 until I was 35 and even though i liked fast cars I was never drawn to auto racing as some type of major event. But it sounds that this is something that you really like . Woild you actually drive as a profession?
I didn't get my first Porsche 911 until I was 35 and even though i liked fast cars I was never drawn to auto racing as some type of major event. But it sounds that this is something that you really like . Woild you actually drive as a profession?
I certainly would love to drive as a profession!
#20
06-22-2010, 10:24 AM
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I think all of the models you mentioned fit in both worlds, however the dividing line for each model is a little different. I would doubt that any of them have a perfect 50/50 balance between daily driving and track use. Each is built by Porsche to fulfill a primary role with the ability to do double duty in a secondary role (which I think is great!). A Carrera S is an absolutely fine road car with the ability to do a stint or two on the track and turn in a respectable performance. A GT3 is an excellent track car that can provide an acceptable level of comfort and driveability on the road.
Frankly, IMHO none of the Porsche sports cars look out of place in either setting.
Frankly, IMHO none of the Porsche sports cars look out of place in either setting.
#21
06-22-2010, 10:33 AM
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Rep Power: 47 I've been driving on the track for 10 years. DEs from PCA, BMWCCA, etc. I did a few years of PCA club racing. I smashed up my street/track 911 about 8 years ago at Watkins Glen. $17k damage - I paid for the repairs out of my pocket - no insurance. I have a dedicated track car now, a 944. I instruct for both PCA and BMWCCA DEs. I've seen all kinds of stuff on the track - a Rabbit wagon (El Camino style) that rips it up at Road Atlanta, a Ford Excursion, Crown Vics, etc. I've been on track with a 962 and other awesome cars. I've met all kinds of drivers.
With that said, my attitude is - different strokes for different folks. I try not to tell people what to do unless they ask my opinion. I feel that learning to drive on the track is like learning to drive all over again. I think that the skills you learn on the track (hard braking, spin avoidance, etc) can be useful on the street. I think anyone could take almost any car (the Excursion was a hazard and I complained) onto the track for a DE weekend or two. As I said earlier - driving on the track is tons of fun! It can be a great couple event as well - my wife and I did many events together early on. They don't usually get dangerous until the driver is more experienced. Several 'track' mods are also beneficial on the street, and sometimes the reverse is true. to each his own. /IMHO
Not sure if that adds anything to the conversation - sorry if it's just wasted space -
With that said, my attitude is - different strokes for different folks. I try not to tell people what to do unless they ask my opinion. I feel that learning to drive on the track is like learning to drive all over again. I think that the skills you learn on the track (hard braking, spin avoidance, etc) can be useful on the street. I think anyone could take almost any car (the Excursion was a hazard and I complained) onto the track for a DE weekend or two. As I said earlier - driving on the track is tons of fun! It can be a great couple event as well - my wife and I did many events together early on. They don't usually get dangerous until the driver is more experienced. Several 'track' mods are also beneficial on the street, and sometimes the reverse is true. to each his own. /IMHO
Not sure if that adds anything to the conversation - sorry if it's just wasted space -
#22
06-22-2010, 11:15 AM
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interesting thread
my 2 cents
track is tons of fun and not unsafe and it's the only ( legal ) way to really see what the car is capable of...but it's not for everyone...
my 2 cents
track is tons of fun and not unsafe and it's the only ( legal ) way to really see what the car is capable of...but it's not for everyone...
Last edited by carbonissimo; 06-22-2010 at 01:54 PM.
#23
06-22-2010, 11:54 AM
Interestingly, the owners manual of the base 911 mentions taking the car to club events. Clearly Porsche anticipates and accepts the fact that folks are going to take their cars to track events.
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