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Old 07-18-2010, 04:46 PM
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X51 headers- install question

Just picked up X51 headers from Brumos Porsche. Unfortunatley they are covered in stickers from the factory. Do these need to be removed before I install them? Don't want to start a fire.
 
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I would remove the stickers. Be careful not to break any manifold bolts during your install.
 
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Thanks, they r a bit tough to get off. I will try some adhesive remover.
 
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Thanks, they r a bit tough to get off. I will try some adhesive remover.
Get them off the best you can, after one or two WOT passes they will be toasted off.

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I will be installing this week, how difficult is install?
 
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Not sure. Will try it in my friends garage with a lift and see if I can do it myself. O/w off to a shop.
 
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I will be installing this week, how difficult is install?
if car is old - pre-soak bolts very well and be careful applying brutal force when removing them.
it s also reccommended to replace header bolts once they were unscrewed, but, i am not so sure if it is very important unless you had to struggle a lot.

honestly if car is not brand new and old headers are toasted to the block i would drive car to mechanic to get this done - job by itself is very easy and if you will have no issues unscrewing those bolts you wil be done in 3-4 hours top BUT it you will break off bolt`s head and leave body in the engine block - it is a very very major PITA.

difference between you an mechanic is that mechanic knows by heart how much force he can apply there before bolt`s steel will break.
in my case - when i was replacing my cats i broke off 4 bolts out of 6. they simply did not go at all even after 3 days o pre-soaking and applying a bit more force made them simply snap in half. but it was cats and i do not care - if you leave bolt`s body in the block you will have to drill into engine block, long story short you do not want that.

i think last person who did this upgrade on an '06 car was cattman ad his header bolts did go very easily. if i`m not mistaken tightening force on headers is 17lb.ft, so if you dial in 25 or so lb/ft on torque wrench and it is not enough to undo those bolts - that would mean you go to be careful.

Nuts on cats bolts - connection between cats and headers - are also 17lb/ft as it seems. be careful there too if you do not have spare cats. as i spoke before i broke off mine - nuts were toasted to bolts permanetly.
 

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Use a heat gun to help remove those stickers.
 
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Will a hairdryer work?
 
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As Utkinpol says..soak the bolts down with liquid wrench over night. Even then it may still be a struggle. My car was only 6 mos. old when I did it so I had none of these issues. I removed the OEM exhaust, reinstalled the new exhaust (headers, cats and Borlas) all in 3.5 hrs. with the car on phone books to lift it up a tad so I could get under there. I lent out my ramps to a buddy who was installing a set of long tube headers on his 08 Shelby GT500 and didn't want to wait.

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Will a hairdryer work?
Don't even sweat the stickers..

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Will a hairdryer work?
They dont get hot enough and your wife might get mad.

If you got most of it off, it will just burn away.
 
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I agree the sticker will burn off. However, if you do want to remove "goof off" or lacquer thiner will remove them.
 
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Hairdryer worked like a charm. Sticker and goo free. Took about 5 min to get all six stickers off.
 
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Originally Posted by Dave07997S
As Utkinpol says..soak the bolts down with liquid wrench over night. Even then it may still be a struggle. My car was only 6 mos. old when I did it so I had none of these issues. I removed the OEM exhaust, reinstalled the new exhaust (headers, cats and Borlas) all in 3.5 hrs. with the car on phone books to lift it up a tad so I could get under there. I lent out my ramps to a buddy who was installing a set of long tube headers on his 08 Shelby GT500 and didn't want to wait.

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Funny, I too could not wait to get my Borlas put on by the shop so my friend and I jacked the car up onto some 4x4s and put in on in a few hours. Will prob try the same with the headers and cats if I can get the O2 sensors installed correctly.
 
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