997 2005-2012 911 C2, C2S, C4, C4S, GTS, Targa and Cabriolet Model Discussion.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: CARiD

OT: repaint for vehicle

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
  #1  
Old 11-05-2010 | 06:18 PM
1BlinkGone's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 786
From: SF Bay Area, CA
Rep Power: 51
1BlinkGone is a name known to all1BlinkGone is a name known to all1BlinkGone is a name known to all1BlinkGone is a name known to all1BlinkGone is a name known to all1BlinkGone is a name known to all
OT: repaint for vehicle

I've a friend who will be buying a new Lexus LX570, and it wants it repainted in a color of his choice since the color he wants isn't offered anymore. Anybody in the Sacramento or Bay Area worth considering that does top-quality work like this? I'm asking for a colleague of mine.
Thanks, gang.
1BG
 
  #2  
Old 11-05-2010 | 06:24 PM
adias's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 2,363
From: SF Bay Area, CA
Rep Power: 169
adias Is a GOD !adias Is a GOD !adias Is a GOD !adias Is a GOD !adias Is a GOD !adias Is a GOD !adias Is a GOD !adias Is a GOD !adias Is a GOD !adias Is a GOD !adias Is a GOD !
Anything can be done but... Is he trading a factory paint for a body shop paint? Sure restorers do that but everything is off the car and those cars are show cars only. To each his own.
 
  #3  
Old 11-05-2010 | 06:32 PM
1BlinkGone's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 786
From: SF Bay Area, CA
Rep Power: 51
1BlinkGone is a name known to all1BlinkGone is a name known to all1BlinkGone is a name known to all1BlinkGone is a name known to all1BlinkGone is a name known to all1BlinkGone is a name known to all
Originally Posted by adias
Anything can be done but... Is he trading a factory paint for a body shop paint? Sure restorers do that but everything is off the car and those cars are show cars only. To each his own.
Obviously, the factory job is out the window, bro. Its not a matter of expense for him. So he's anticipating to pay to do it right and wants a reputable firm that can deliver. Thx.

BTW- I'm also suggesting he hit up Lexus to do a one-off for him (at a premium, no less) but that remains to be seen. Between production schedules, and how willing the suits in Japan might be, could be an improbability.
 

Last edited by 1BlinkGone; 11-05-2010 at 06:36 PM.
  #4  
Old 11-05-2010 | 06:57 PM
adias's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 2,363
From: SF Bay Area, CA
Rep Power: 169
adias Is a GOD !adias Is a GOD !adias Is a GOD !adias Is a GOD !adias Is a GOD !adias Is a GOD !adias Is a GOD !adias Is a GOD !adias Is a GOD !adias Is a GOD !adias Is a GOD !
Originally Posted by 1BlinkGone
Obviously, the factory job is out the window, bro. Its not a matter of expense for him. So he's anticipating to pay to do it right and wants a reputable firm that can deliver. Thx.

BTW- I'm also suggesting he hit up Lexus to do a one-off for him (at a premium, no less) but that remains to be seen. Between production schedules, and how willing the suits in Japan might be, could be an improbability.
I would never do it. I think that a factory paint is better than after-market, and the car will be compromised with a lot of take down and refit. If insists on a repaint he should contact a reputable vintage car restorer.

Yes, he should try to get a factory one-off for a price. What color is that that is so special?
 
  #5  
Old 11-05-2010 | 07:05 PM
1BlinkGone's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 786
From: SF Bay Area, CA
Rep Power: 51
1BlinkGone is a name known to all1BlinkGone is a name known to all1BlinkGone is a name known to all1BlinkGone is a name known to all1BlinkGone is a name known to all1BlinkGone is a name known to all
Adidas- I don't recall the color, but it was a particular color they dropped a year or two ago. I myself wouldn't do it, either. I agree completely that he won't get as good a job as a factory finish. He may get close, but I don't think it will be the same... not with today's electro-painting processes used by Japan and Germany... I don't know if we are using that process here in the USA.

That said, there are some showcar finishes that are absolutely stellar.
 

Last edited by 1BlinkGone; 11-05-2010 at 07:08 PM.
  #6  
Old 11-06-2010 | 12:36 AM
1BlinkGone's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 786
From: SF Bay Area, CA
Rep Power: 51
1BlinkGone is a name known to all1BlinkGone is a name known to all1BlinkGone is a name known to all1BlinkGone is a name known to all1BlinkGone is a name known to all1BlinkGone is a name known to all
Talked to my colleague tonight- the color desired was some sort of Azurite Mica (Dark Metallic Blue) that they dropped in 2010 if I recall. He understands he's looking at big bucks for this job- just how much will be determined by the painter. We've got a tip on one painter in Fremont (FCC) another in Milpitas- each does work for Porsche and M-B, respectively. I told my friend he's probably looking at 20-35k for this job done right... and this isn't even factoring-in the issues with dismantling the vehicle and potential issues arising from that. We'll see how this progresses and which way he decides to go.
 
  #7  
Old 11-06-2010 | 12:42 AM
adias's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 2,363
From: SF Bay Area, CA
Rep Power: 169
adias Is a GOD !adias Is a GOD !adias Is a GOD !adias Is a GOD !adias Is a GOD !adias Is a GOD !adias Is a GOD !adias Is a GOD !adias Is a GOD !adias Is a GOD !adias Is a GOD !
Originally Posted by 1BlinkGone
Talked to my colleague tonight- the color desired was some sort of Azurite Mica (Dark Metallic Blue) that they dropped in 2010 if I recall. He understands he's looking at big bucks for this job- just how much will be determined by the painter. We've got a tip on one painter in Fremont (FCC) another in Milpitas- each does work for Porsche and M-B, respectively. I told my friend he's probably looking at 20-35k for this job done right... and this isn't even factoring-in the issues with dismantling the vehicle and potential issues arising from that. We'll see how this progresses and which way he decides to go.

Please post photos and your critical eval when the job is done, will you?
 
  #8  
Old 11-06-2010 | 12:53 AM
yrralis1's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 9,107
From: South Florida
Rep Power: 527
yrralis1 Is a GOD !yrralis1 Is a GOD !yrralis1 Is a GOD !yrralis1 Is a GOD !yrralis1 Is a GOD !yrralis1 Is a GOD !yrralis1 Is a GOD !yrralis1 Is a GOD !yrralis1 Is a GOD !yrralis1 Is a GOD !yrralis1 Is a GOD !
Originally Posted by 1BlinkGone
Talked to my colleague tonight- the color desired was some sort of Azurite Mica (Dark Metallic Blue) that they dropped in 2010 if I recall. He understands he's looking at big bucks for this job- just how much will be determined by the painter. We've got a tip on one painter in Fremont (FCC) another in Milpitas- each does work for Porsche and M-B, respectively. I told my friend he's probably looking at 20-35k for this job done right... and this isn't even factoring-in the issues with dismantling the vehicle and potential issues arising from that. We'll see how this progresses and which way he decides to go.
Beyond questioning the sanity ---

1) Why not just do a wrap ?

2) Does it even matter to get it perfect ? He's basically going to throw out most of the car's value .
 
  #9  
Old 11-06-2010 | 01:05 AM
essayons's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 144
From: Afghanistan
Rep Power: 20
essayons is infamous around these parts
a paint job, even an all over, shouldn't cost near $35,000.

How thorough of a paint job is he looking for? Does he want the vehicle stripped down to a bare shell, no suspension/undercoating/carpet? Paint the undersides of the floor? Or does he want to do engine bay, sills, few inches under the carpet, and the exterior? Is the vehicle to be stripped to bare metal so it has a more factory appearance and it's not paint over primer over paint?

Granted, I'm not going to question the financial decisions of people wealthier than myself, but I can't imagine the thought process that would lead someone to want to do this.
 
  #10  
Old 11-06-2010 | 04:26 AM
Dadio's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 1,342
From: USA
Rep Power: 103
Dadio has a reputation beyond reputeDadio has a reputation beyond reputeDadio has a reputation beyond reputeDadio has a reputation beyond reputeDadio has a reputation beyond reputeDadio has a reputation beyond reputeDadio has a reputation beyond reputeDadio has a reputation beyond reputeDadio has a reputation beyond reputeDadio has a reputation beyond reputeDadio has a reputation beyond repute
You'd think a guy with all that money would just have "his people" figure all this out for him. Or better yet, have the salesman at the Lexus dealership take care of. I've got to believe someone at the dealership knows the name of a reputable company in the area that can grant this customers wish. Folks with that much disposable income never have any trouble finding folks to take it from them.
 
  #11  
Old 11-06-2010 | 05:55 AM
Mark Ducati's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 278
From: BLUE RIDGE, GEORGIA
Rep Power: 27
Mark Ducati is infamous around these partsMark Ducati is infamous around these parts
I agree that factory paint is always better than a body shop as frame-off painting is always better... BUT, would you say the same for flat/matte paint?

I was thinking of having my gloss black P-Car redone in matte black.... I've also seen a Murcielago in a flat/matte corn flower blue, I may consider this as well...

Matte paint on exotics seem to be catching on... I think that people with the high dollar cars are tired of waxing swirl marks out of the paint???? Matte is easier to keep looking clean.

 
  #12  
Old 11-06-2010 | 06:39 AM
1BlinkGone's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 786
From: SF Bay Area, CA
Rep Power: 51
1BlinkGone is a name known to all1BlinkGone is a name known to all1BlinkGone is a name known to all1BlinkGone is a name known to all1BlinkGone is a name known to all1BlinkGone is a name known to all
Originally Posted by essayons
a paint job, even an all over, shouldn't cost near $35,000.

How thorough of a paint job is he looking for? Does he want the vehicle stripped down to a bare shell, no suspension/undercoating/carpet? Paint the undersides of the floor? Or does he want to do engine bay, sills, few inches under the carpet, and the exterior? Is the vehicle to be stripped to bare metal so it has a more factory appearance and it's not paint over primer over paint?

Granted, I'm not going to question the financial decisions of people wealthier than myself, but I can't imagine the thought process that would lead someone to want to do this.
Essayons- the 35k I quoted was from a rennlister member (not a paint guy himself) who gave me that figure for a SF shop rate probably off the cuff, and I relayed it to the guy to see what kind of response I would get- to shock him out of this perhaps. I would imagine he'd want engine bay, sills, etc and the exterior job, not a complete strip down to bare shell (although you never know).

Now for everybody here- this was an honest question from a guy looking for options to explore and to see how viable it might be for him. He knows I'm into cars (that's why he's having me do some checking for him), but both of us are transplants from other areas of the country so we really don't know what's available or have connections established in this area of the state. Nor do we have a clue what rates are out here. FWIW, I've hever had that comprehensive of paint work done, period, so I have no personal point of reference.

If it was me looking for a particular color, unless I could get the company to do a one-off for me in the color of my choice at the factory, I wouldn't bother. I'd either stick with the stock color choices, or go to another company if they had something I liked or with one that had a PTS option.
 
  #13  
Old 11-06-2010 | 06:47 AM
essayons's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 144
From: Afghanistan
Rep Power: 20
essayons is infamous around these parts
Originally Posted by 1BlinkGone
Essayons- the 35k I quoted was from a rennlister member (not a paint guy himself) who gave me that figure for a SF shop rate probably off the cuff, and I relayed it to the guy to see what kind of response I would get- to shock him out of this perhaps. I would imagine he'd want engine bay, sills, etc and the exterior job, not a complete strip down to bare shell (although you never know).
that makes sense then. I've had the super-inflated-to-scare-away-customer tactic backfire on me before.

The only time I've seen a car actually completely disassembled and stripped for a repaint was a painter that was doing his own car on the side as a show car. Came out beautifully and looked amazing, until it got stolen and had everything removed from it (seats and carpets included).

Good luck to your friend, a custom job is always a great thing when it comes out well.
 
  #14  
Old 11-06-2010 | 07:32 AM
Jon H...'s Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 22
From: Friendswood, TX
Rep Power: 0
Jon H... is infamous around these parts
For a Ferrari 3x8 series you can figure 8k to 10k in the US.

This would not include the interior area or engine area, but would include
windshield and all glass removed and all removable body parts painted
as stand alone items.

A large SUV will likely be (alot) more...
 
  #15  
Old 11-09-2010 | 05:25 PM
rbsf123's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 2
From: SF Bay Area
Rep Power: 0
rbsf123 is infamous around these parts
Try Barsotti's in San Rafael. High quality, trustworthy, and reasonable in my experience. They do Sonnen Porsche's work and more.
 


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.

Quick Reply: OT: repaint for vehicle



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:25 PM.