If he really did say Patriot Act - run! Seriously.

But in the event you misunderstood what he was referring to, they can still send you the repair invoice and blank out the customer's name and other identifiers.

You really should have pics of the damage plus the repair bill plus PPI.

It really does not make sense they can't give you more information about the accident if everything is on the up and up.

 

I started laughing at the PA also. I'll do some more digging and find out.

 

See if they will black out any personal info and then make a copy for you. Patriot Act is a nonsense excuse.

 

I'm sorry to change my tune, but I think what you have here is a classic "story car".

With anything that's not perfect, you will want clear, simple documentation. They are not providing that to you. Recommend walk. You will find something even better! Stay patient.

 

My goodness, yes, on that $8,000. Our NSX was keyed and it cost $15,700 before we got it done satisfactorily. That was at a premier body shop, but also it was owned by a friend. Shop manager told me grumpily that the bill should have been $21,000 at least. Discount the grumpiness by half and you still have an idea how much painting and color sanding can run on cars this expensive. Two adjacent crumpled panels means a lot more work than just paint and could easily hit eight thousand.

What troubles me about this whole thing is the lack of information. Why was it a cash payout? What shop did the work? If it was any sort of collision at all, was the frame put up on a... uh, name escapes me, but it's a special lift where they clamp the frame at specified points and a computer measures critical distances to determine whether distortion occurred. Was that done?

Dealers do not have such a lift unless they do Porsche certified body work, and that combination is rare. Doing it isn't expensive when you have that special lift. When the dealer crashed our NSX a couple of years later, the autobody that got it that time did the measurements at no charge as part of the estimate process.

Gary

 

http://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistory...#DetailSection

Here is the carfax. See what you all think.

 

It ended up on CarFax because the shop is obligated to report it. If there was an accident that was the OP's fault, he may have paid cash so his rates didn't go up. That's all I was getting to. Maybe he backed into something or rear ended something and the damage wasn't panels but to the bumpers and internals.

 

My question is "why bother?" There are so many beautiful and perfect cars available, why are you wasting time and energy on this one? Are the color combo or options so unique that this is THE car? If not, I'd pass. A few thousand bucks is not worth the potential headache.

 

The Carfax says the car was sold two weeks ago.

 

Looking for a 2005-2008 C2. That's for my wife. The S is for me! If I can find an S for around 41ish, I'll jump on it. There are a couple out there. Red is not an option for us. If you see any out there, PM me. I've been looking for a week or so. This is the first that grabbed my attention. I am patient though. The guy is asking 41.9 for the car. Obviously an asking price, not necessarily a getting price!

 

This guy supposedly bought it from the dealer on the carfax 2 weeks ago. A friend of his or something. Like I said, more digging to do. Along with that the price needs to come down for all the effort!

 

I read the thread and went back to your first post . A car with a scratch or ding will get a few bucks knocked off compared to an equally maintained car without it . The main ingriedient of any repaired car is how honestly it's disclosed . I have traded in cars with a repaired sratch or ding and even one where the xenon lights were stolen -- but I always disclosed it .. even a dealership because i feel it's the right thing to do.

What you have is a much different circumstance though . You are asking for an opinion on a car with an accident history , sold at auction, and appearing in another state .
It seems like the general opinion you are getting is that it raises enough red flags .

 

I say walk away. Any bargain you get in the car will be passed on to the next buyer when they check its history. There are too many good cars out there with low miles and you don't have to gamble. Interest is cheap and resale is good; just get a clean car.

 

One more point - same goes for mfr buybacks. The price may look great but believe me you will be at a disadvantage when you get ready to trade it or sell it. Sure it may have been a demanding buyer that forced the mfr to take it back or a real problem, but the title will still be branded and that is enough in most states to cause people to be scared. Some dealers can sell them, but the buyer will later discover the difficulty of getting his money back if he tries to sell.