I have an '07 base Carrera with 19,000 miles that I've had for four years. Warranty expires in 30 days. Original MSRP was $84k. Have located an '09 base 997.2 that is new. This car was ordered too highly optioned for a base Carrera, with an MSRP of $96k. This car has several options I do like -- PASM, LSD, sport chrono plus, bluetooth, universal audio connectivity, dynamic cornering lights, and PSE. Useless options like dials in guards red, carbon package, 6 disc CD, red seat belts, and crest in seats add no value for me. Big plus is 997.2 car new car warranty was 'punched' by dealer in August 2010, and comes with 3.5 yrs remaining plus 6 yr 100k CPO. Plus I like the 997.2 upgrades (direct injection, PCM, LED's, etc.).

What would be a fair net difference, assuming a trade? I already have a figure in mind, but want other opinions. Please, I'm not here to get into a base vs S debate.

 

I've seen 10,000 mi used CPO non S Carreras going for $62k with a shorter option list.

I'd guess at a minimum you'd expect to get $15k off the sticker on a straight sale for the one you are looking at. That would put the car at $69k. However, at that price your into some very nice used and CPO'd S models. Your car private party is maybe $49k. So maybe $20k and your car.

 

More like 35-40K will be needed...

your car is worth at most 40K to dealer...997.2 with cpo and long warranty and lots of options, maybe 70-75K

If you can get it for your car and 30K jump at it

 

Need more opinions ! Two responses with significantly differing thoughts.

 

my opinion is that I would keep '07 car. like I keep my '06 car and just add up to it. DFI engine is nice, but, well, I would probably consider a trade for .2 GT3 RS car but it is way more money.
regular DFI engine in base model is not that much beef up compared to what you have now IMHO, plus when I track my base car i honestly do not think its engine is a major limitation.

but if you feel that you love .2 C2 and want to have it - why not, it is just a car after all. it is difficult to provide a rational opinion to something what is irrational by its nature.

 

Closer to $35k + your car - $40k on the trade + $75k for the 09. At best $30k net difference + TT&L.

 

What he ^ said.

Right - if you get $20K off, the new car is still $76K. And your car is probably worth around 1/2 of original cost - you can KBB it and then expect to be offered less on a trade. May be better if you can sell it yourself...depending on how sales tax is done in your area - in GA, we only pay sales tax on the amount less the trade - makes it less likely to do better with a private sale.

If you can get it for $30K, that's not bad...

 

Get the best deal on the new car.
Sell your current car privately.
Buy the new car.

 

Your car is worth $40 - $46K. Is the difference in price worth it? Only you can decide. Though I'm not a fan of the blue tooth, red guages and seat belts, the rest of the options sounds pretty sweet. Just know that on the street or track the difference in HP is not definitive. Enjoy the 997 for the technological improvements you mentioned however. Good luck.

 

$0 because I don't think you should do it.

Also, IMO, don't worry about your warranty expiring assuming you took care of your car.

You'll certainly get some better creature comforts and some performace gain out if the '09 but not even worth even a $10k delta (assuming you could not flip for a profit).

 

Unfortunately in many states the corrupt tax laws that dealers lobbied for basically force you to do trade-ins.

 

I agree .

OP --don't do it !!!!

Adding to Taylors post --

1) That 09 sat there for two years UNSOLD and every potential buyer said "no thanks" or it woild have found a home.
2) The dealership will NEVER sell the car for a loss and even if they did .. it would not be enough to be a gain for you.
3) You want a new car .. buy a NEW car .. meaning a 2011 .
4) 96K MSRP for a base .. blech!!!!

In my opinion .. I see not one reason to buy the car which places me in agreement with perhaps the hundreds of others who walked in and out of that showroom and opted not to buy it.

In my opinion -- the dealership who is stuck with it .. missed the boat to sell it .. wish them luck with THEIR car .. they own it.

 

I wonder if the car is really new - don't some dealers get "executive" cars back, never sold, so they pitch them as new even though someone has been driving them? I am sure I have seen something like that. Hard to believe there are really "new" '09s still around.

Here's quote about one such car:
"This 2009 911...is an executive demo which has only 10k miles on it. In addition, it is still technically new but priced as a preowned model."

Cars like that are going for $15-20K off - and even that doesn't seem so great.

What mileage does it have? I think it is worth whatever a CPO'd low mileage '09 is worth the more I think about it. And those options, on a two year old car, have lost most of their "value". The biggest plus is a good bit or warranty if the price is right.

 

The car is new. I've watched it sit on the showroom floor for a couple of years. I was friends with the former sales guy that ordered the car, and told him at the time he'd messed up ordering such a highly optioned base 911.

I have a firm offer of a $25k net difference. Just gotta decide if it's worth $25k for two models newer, warranty, and 997.2. One inner voice tells me to hold off another few years, hold on to the $25k, and get what I really want (gt3). But then there's that other inner voice that wants the shiny 997.2. Regardless of my decision, this is a solid net trade difference. The dealer is taking it on the chin.

 

Personally, in contrast to the prevalent opinions in this forum, I think $25,000 net difference sounds pretty tempting. Even thoough I know everyone is correct about the extensive options - that they don't increase the value of the car on the used market - the options in this case, such as PASM and LSD, are highly functional and will make the car fun and unique to own. My bottom line: newer car with DME and .2 upgrades, 3.5 years of warranty, increased HP and PASM/LSD....not a bad deal.