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Old 04-14-2011 | 09:02 AM
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911 GTS wheels / suspension combo question

I'm trying to finalize a build and noticed that the online configuration tool indicates that if you select the sports suspension option (P17) the center lock wheels must be replaced with one of the other 911 wheel options (non center lock). Interestingly though, the configuration tool didn't give the pop up window indicating a conflicting configuration .... I only came across this when I looked at the information icon. My sales rep confirmed a no go of the center lock wheels with the sports suspension option but indicated Porsche gave no technical / mechanical reason....he speculated but nothing official from Porsche.

Anyone out there know the official reason ? Or is the configuration tool incorrect? Thanks in advance.
 
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Whatever wheel you get the Sport PASM is worth it. Personally I'd rather have the simple to use 5 lug wheels. The center lock wheels need very special tools to remove and special things need to be done to the center lock assb to reinstall. In other words the center lock design Porsche is using is a PITA.
 
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Old 04-14-2011 | 09:44 AM
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Whatever wheel you get the Sport PASM is worth it. Personally I'd rather have the simple to use 5 lug wheels. The center lock wheels need very special tools to remove and special things need to be done to the center lock assb to reinstall. In other words the center lock design Porsche is using is a PITA.
Thanks...was thinking the same re: PITA on the center locks.
 
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Yep I would avoid CL if you can.

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Originally Posted by Flip
I'm trying to finalize a build and noticed that the online configuration tool indicates that if you select the sports suspension option (P17) the center lock wheels must be replaced with one of the other 911 wheel options (non center lock). Interestingly though, the configuration tool didn't give the pop up window indicating a conflicting configuration .... I only came across this when I looked at the information icon. My sales rep confirmed a no go of the center lock wheels with the sports suspension option but indicated Porsche gave no technical / mechanical reason....he speculated but nothing official from Porsche.

Anyone out there know the official reason ? Or is the configuration tool incorrect? Thanks in advance.
I don't believe that's correct. I've had my GTS for 6 weeks now. It has sport suspension with LSD and the center lock wheels. Now that I have the car I'm realizing that the center locks are a bigger problem than I realized. My regular tire shop doesn't have the necessary tools and buying/installing tires through the dealer is prohibitive. I may end up buying the torque converter and breaker bar and bringing them with me to the tire shop.

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Originally Posted by DMoore
I don't believe that's correct. I've had my GTS for 6 weeks now. It has sport suspension with LSD and the center lock wheels. Now that I have the car I'm realizing that the center locks are a bigger problem than I realized. My regular tire shop doesn't have the necessary tools and buying/installing tires through the dealer is prohibitive. I may end up buying the torque converter and breaker bar and bringing them with me to the tire shop.

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Thanks....chalk up another vote for avoiding center lock wheels.
 
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Decision made....I'm not going with center lock wheels....Now the fun part. Of the available options for the 911. Any recommendations? While looks are always a factor, I'm also interested in any opinions on operational considerations (eg; weight, any issues when you put on new rubber, etc).

Thanks again for any and all advice / opinions.
 
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LSD is a no brainer on that car
 
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if going PDK sport chrono a must..
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Personally I like the "Non Corning lights" looks better to me
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i think the pasm only avail on coupe
 
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Decision made....I'm not going with center lock wheels....Now the fun part. Of the available options for the 911. Any recommendations? While looks are always a factor, I'm also interested in any opinions on operational considerations (eg; weight, any issues when you put on new rubber, etc).

Thanks again for any and all advice / opinions.

Sorry guys....I should have been a bit more specific.... "Of the available options for wheels on the 911, any recommendations? While looks are always a factor, I'm also interested in any opinions on operational considerations (eg; weight, any issues when you put on new rubber, etc)."

Since I am not going with the center locks, choosing the wheel is the only remaining task. Still, it is nice to see confirmation of many of my other choices.

Thanks again.
 
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you only get 2 choices both black..
go for 5 lug and get something later if you don't like the stock wheels.

if you go 5 lug most dealers will swap for a factory wheel in silver.
 
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Its not correct about your choices for wheels, if you get P17, you get center lock wheels. I do not know how you can delete the center locks and chooses regular hubs. You may have to have the dealer specify that. But dont rely on the web site because it gives falts about the options. You have to talk with the dealer to order a car, and he has many other options and choices to make that the web does.
 
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Originally Posted by Flip
I'm trying to finalize a build and noticed that the online configuration tool indicates that if you select the sports suspension option (P17) the center lock wheels must be replaced with one of the other 911 wheel options (non center lock). Interestingly though, the configuration tool didn't give the pop up window indicating a conflicting configuration .... I only came across this when I looked at the information icon. My sales rep confirmed a no go of the center lock wheels with the sports suspension option but indicated Porsche gave no technical / mechanical reason....he speculated but nothing official from Porsche.

Anyone out there know the official reason ? Or is the configuration tool incorrect? Thanks in advance.
That is completely incorrect, and I would be hesitant to work with any salesperson who did not know that. I have P17 with the Centerlocks.

By the way, unless you are planning to change wheels/tires yourself, the CL are no different than any other wheel. Don't let the naysayers (who typically either don't have them and are making an uninformed opinion, or are GT3 track junkies who have to change wheels all the time) give you the false impression that they are a bit of trouble. If you go to the Turbo forums you will not hear the CL whining that you hear here.
 
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That is completely incorrect, and I would be hesitant to work with any salesperson who did not know that. I have P17 with the Centerlocks.

By the way, unless you are planning to change wheels/tires yourself, the CL are no different than any other wheel. Don't let the naysayers (who typically either don't have them and are making an uninformed opinion, or are GT3 track junkies who have to change wheels all the time) give you the false impression that they are a bit of trouble. If you go to the Turbo forums you will not hear the CL whining that you hear here.
I have a .2 3 and love the CLs but will say that I am not a track guy and do not have to change them myself. However, anyone wishing to change these wheels themselves would have to spend a few bucks to equip themselves with the proper torque multiplying wrench and breaker bar. For me I wouldn't want any other wheel for aesthetic reasons alone. Labor will also be more to change these wheels but when spending $100k plus on a car an extra $100-$125 bucks is not something to worry about, imo. However, one would want to be certain that their dealer has a clue about changing them. Most dealers do but some do not. It still amazes me that Porsche allows ill-informed and ill-equipped dealer service departments as well as ~but to a lessor degree~ ill-informed sales people to exist.
 

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Old 04-16-2011 | 08:12 AM
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Specing out this car is very personal. I like the SPORT in mt sports cars and am a track junky so for me less is more to a certain extent.

About Center Locks....I track with a large group of guys that have 2010-2011 GT3 and GT3RS and those have center locks. Aftermarket center lock wheels are more expensive and you have to have this 4-5 foot long torque wrench and special tools just to remove them. Plus the center lock mechanism takes a special grease each time it is removed. No tire shop in the USA will be able to service a car with center locks should you be on the road and need a tire repair/replacement. Other than that...they look very cool but are very different than what the race cars use.

Options for me if I was getting a GTS:
Aero Kit
PDK
Sport Chrono -must with PDK
Sport PASM Suspension w/ LSD...have it now on my 2009 and love it...the LSD is shot though
GT2 Sport Bucket Seats for 6 point harness
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