Opinions on a GTS I found.
#1
Opinions on a GTS I found.
Hi Folks..........Once again, I turn to the board for it's great advice.
I have recently found a brand new 2011 GTS. I was wondering if it is worth the extra cash over a c2s?
Also, what is the difference? Is it just the extra HP? I think the GTS is as wide as the Turbo, or possibly even the turbos body without obvious vents.
The car is beautiful-amazing.
Its a Cabriolet, manual.
I did a search on here, found out a bit, but nothing pointed to these exact questions. Thanks again.
I have recently found a brand new 2011 GTS. I was wondering if it is worth the extra cash over a c2s?
Also, what is the difference? Is it just the extra HP? I think the GTS is as wide as the Turbo, or possibly even the turbos body without obvious vents.
The car is beautiful-amazing.
Its a Cabriolet, manual.
I did a search on here, found out a bit, but nothing pointed to these exact questions. Thanks again.
#2
Main differences:
* PowerKit (more power, torque) - not entirely noticeable, but it's there
* WB rear from C4/C4S
* Sports Exhaust is standard
* Centerlocks are standard (but no cost option to go with 5-lug)
* Alcantara interior & steering wheel
To me it's the perfect 911 as I wanted a WB, but not necessarily a C4S. As I have a 9yo daughter, I still need rear seats (GT3 doesn't), but the rear seats are actually a no-cost option. The Sports Exhaust sounds so good (even better with SharkWerks bypass - going on next week).
Those are the basics...
* PowerKit (more power, torque) - not entirely noticeable, but it's there
* WB rear from C4/C4S
* Sports Exhaust is standard
* Centerlocks are standard (but no cost option to go with 5-lug)
* Alcantara interior & steering wheel
To me it's the perfect 911 as I wanted a WB, but not necessarily a C4S. As I have a 9yo daughter, I still need rear seats (GT3 doesn't), but the rear seats are actually a no-cost option. The Sports Exhaust sounds so good (even better with SharkWerks bypass - going on next week).
Those are the basics...
#3
KBB 2011 GTS First Drive remarks -
"The Carrera GTS shares its wide flanks and huge rubber with the Carrera 4's bodyshell, while propelled by the more conventional rear-wheel drive. Enjoying a 23 horsepower advantage when compared to the more pedestrian Carrera S, the GTS occupies that narrow gap between the 'S' to the south and Porsche's 435 horsepower GT3 to the north. And we'd dare you to recognize the horsepower deficiency if you haven't won the pole at LeMans.
At the end of the day, we were smitten by its personality - but unsure that the performance advantages equal the GTS' pricing disadvantage. A more pedestrian 911 Carrera comes in at under $80K, and in the hands of even a skilled owner will do 98 percent of what the GTS can accomplish - at 80-percent of the price. You pay your money, and you take your choice; we'll take a cooking 911 (or Cayman R) - and spend the balance on track days."
"The Carrera GTS shares its wide flanks and huge rubber with the Carrera 4's bodyshell, while propelled by the more conventional rear-wheel drive. Enjoying a 23 horsepower advantage when compared to the more pedestrian Carrera S, the GTS occupies that narrow gap between the 'S' to the south and Porsche's 435 horsepower GT3 to the north. And we'd dare you to recognize the horsepower deficiency if you haven't won the pole at LeMans.
At the end of the day, we were smitten by its personality - but unsure that the performance advantages equal the GTS' pricing disadvantage. A more pedestrian 911 Carrera comes in at under $80K, and in the hands of even a skilled owner will do 98 percent of what the GTS can accomplish - at 80-percent of the price. You pay your money, and you take your choice; we'll take a cooking 911 (or Cayman R) - and spend the balance on track days."
#4
KBB 2011 GTS First Drive remarks -
"The Carrera GTS shares its wide flanks and huge rubber with the Carrera 4's bodyshell, while propelled by the more conventional rear-wheel drive. Enjoying a 23 horsepower advantage when compared to the more pedestrian Carrera S, the GTS occupies that narrow gap between the 'S' to the south and Porsche's 435 horsepower GT3 to the north. And we'd dare you to recognize the horsepower deficiency if you haven't won the pole at LeMans.
At the end of the day, we were smitten by its personality - but unsure that the performance advantages equal the GTS' pricing disadvantage. A more pedestrian 911 Carrera comes in at under $80K, and in the hands of even a skilled owner will do 98 percent of what the GTS can accomplish - at 80-percent of the price. You pay your money, and you take your choice; we'll take a cooking 911 (or Cayman R) - and spend the balance on track days."
"The Carrera GTS shares its wide flanks and huge rubber with the Carrera 4's bodyshell, while propelled by the more conventional rear-wheel drive. Enjoying a 23 horsepower advantage when compared to the more pedestrian Carrera S, the GTS occupies that narrow gap between the 'S' to the south and Porsche's 435 horsepower GT3 to the north. And we'd dare you to recognize the horsepower deficiency if you haven't won the pole at LeMans.
At the end of the day, we were smitten by its personality - but unsure that the performance advantages equal the GTS' pricing disadvantage. A more pedestrian 911 Carrera comes in at under $80K, and in the hands of even a skilled owner will do 98 percent of what the GTS can accomplish - at 80-percent of the price. You pay your money, and you take your choice; we'll take a cooking 911 (or Cayman R) - and spend the balance on track days."
#5
KBB 2011 GTS First Drive remarks -
"The Carrera GTS shares its wide flanks and huge rubber with the Carrera 4's bodyshell, while propelled by the more conventional rear-wheel drive. Enjoying a 23 horsepower advantage when compared to the more pedestrian Carrera S, the GTS occupies that narrow gap between the 'S' to the south and Porsche's 435 horsepower GT3 to the north. And we'd dare you to recognize the horsepower deficiency if you haven't won the pole at LeMans.
At the end of the day, we were smitten by its personality - but unsure that the performance advantages equal the GTS' pricing disadvantage. A more pedestrian 911 Carrera comes in at under $80K, and in the hands of even a skilled owner will do 98 percent of what the GTS can accomplish - at 80-percent of the price. You pay your money, and you take your choice; we'll take a cooking 911 (or Cayman R) - and spend the balance on track days."
"The Carrera GTS shares its wide flanks and huge rubber with the Carrera 4's bodyshell, while propelled by the more conventional rear-wheel drive. Enjoying a 23 horsepower advantage when compared to the more pedestrian Carrera S, the GTS occupies that narrow gap between the 'S' to the south and Porsche's 435 horsepower GT3 to the north. And we'd dare you to recognize the horsepower deficiency if you haven't won the pole at LeMans.
At the end of the day, we were smitten by its personality - but unsure that the performance advantages equal the GTS' pricing disadvantage. A more pedestrian 911 Carrera comes in at under $80K, and in the hands of even a skilled owner will do 98 percent of what the GTS can accomplish - at 80-percent of the price. You pay your money, and you take your choice; we'll take a cooking 911 (or Cayman R) - and spend the balance on track days."
BUT - this is what I see:
Main differences:
* PowerKit (more power, torque) - not entirely noticeable, but it's there
* WB rear from C4/C4S
* Sports Exhaust is standard
* Centerlocks are standard (but no cost option to go with 5-lug)
* Alcantara interior & steering wheel
To me it's the perfect 911 as I wanted a WB, but not necessarily a C4S. As I have a 9yo daughter, I still need rear seats (GT3 doesn't), but the rear seats are actually a no-cost option. The Sports Exhaust sounds so good (even better with SharkWerks bypass - going on next week).
Those are the basics...
* PowerKit (more power, torque) - not entirely noticeable, but it's there
* WB rear from C4/C4S
* Sports Exhaust is standard
* Centerlocks are standard (but no cost option to go with 5-lug)
* Alcantara interior & steering wheel
To me it's the perfect 911 as I wanted a WB, but not necessarily a C4S. As I have a 9yo daughter, I still need rear seats (GT3 doesn't), but the rear seats are actually a no-cost option. The Sports Exhaust sounds so good (even better with SharkWerks bypass - going on next week).
Those are the basics...
I say - if it's the one you want - get it.
#6
Tough choice because you know the 991 will be good~
But your's are happy thoughts as whilst you are muling over which 997 is better, there are millions and billions of people out there who can only dream of one ~SOMEDAY~.
GET IT!!!!!!!!!!!!
But your's are happy thoughts as whilst you are muling over which 997 is better, there are millions and billions of people out there who can only dream of one ~SOMEDAY~.
GET IT!!!!!!!!!!!!
#7
Yeah, I agree with buckwheat - a ton of logic in this review.
BUT - this is what I see:
Purely depends on the buyer... If you just 'know' that it is the car for you, there is no logic required - If you purchase another car, I believe you'll spend the next few years wondering 'what if', until the day you get one anyway...
I say - if it's the one you want - get it.
BUT - this is what I see:
Purely depends on the buyer... If you just 'know' that it is the car for you, there is no logic required - If you purchase another car, I believe you'll spend the next few years wondering 'what if', until the day you get one anyway...
I say - if it's the one you want - get it.
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#8
I've had my GTS cab for a couple of months now and I love it. It is my 3rd 997 and it's a keeper. To me, it's got a lot going for it, the beauty of the widebody, the power kit and PSE is great if you like to wind it out, the car sounds amazing.
#9
Unless you have the money and obsession with max speed for a Turbo, GT2/3, this is it. Everything a 911 is meant to be. All other 911 models are superb vehicles in their own right, but this is the sharpest and most defined of the non-rear-spoiler'd versions.
#11
I think the GTS is as wide as the Turbo, or possibly even the turbos body without obvious vents.
In short .. it's more car , it's faster car, and it may just hold value better when no 991 Turbos are out yet .
One last thing .. I drove both my cars today back to back (first the Turbo then the 997S ) . I'd pick the Turbo without a second thought.
#12
A few things that sold me on the GTS, Centerlock wheels/black, SS door sills, Horsepower, RWD, Sport exhaust. Went from a 4S automatic, I like the feel of the RWD and the 6 speed. Plan on keeping this one
#13
I think the GTS is awesome and has a lot of standard features (noted above) that I would spec on any new 911 BUT I don't see the logic in building one now when the 991's are only 6-12 months away. If you absolutely have to have a 911 soon, I'd buy a pre-owned in the $50-70k range and decide next year whether to keep it or trade-in.
#14
I personally feel that the GTS should be the C2, and that's it.
I think there should be a GTS RWD model and then a Turbo AWD model... Call it a day. (No 'S' models and packages that add $20k in options, just make everything as good as it can be, and be done with it)
All this other crap of 1524 model variations becomes a pain in the a$$ when it comes time to purchase on the secondary market.
(Just my opinion)
I think there should be a GTS RWD model and then a Turbo AWD model... Call it a day. (No 'S' models and packages that add $20k in options, just make everything as good as it can be, and be done with it)
All this other crap of 1524 model variations becomes a pain in the a$$ when it comes time to purchase on the secondary market.
(Just my opinion)