Spoiler up = "I'm speeding"
#32
I spent 6 years as a CHP officer but left years ago. But to answer your question, I felt that writing speeding tickets was a waste of time. You're standing on the side of the freeway writing some poor soul for 75 mph or so while dozens of people are driving by at 80+. What's the point? If the motorist wasn't driving reckless or tailgating or drunk, I hating pulling then over. I 'd pull them over for speed and then cite only for a seatbelt violation because I completely believe in wearing sealbelts. If it was late at night or early in the morning I'd wait for those doing at least 80.
#33
My ticket was reduced based on first offense in that town. $250 and nothing on my record. It was all revenue generation in that case. I think that's more common these days.
The worst part is that I had (and still have) laser jammers in a box on a shelf at home. I need to get off my *** and get those installed!!!
#34
Typically for those kinds of speeds just plan on getting a ticket. Somtimes the officer will write you for a little less, but that's pretty rare. When we returned to the office at the end of the shift we'd often talk about the one you got for 90 or 100.
#35
I'm never worried about it. With all the different types of spoilers they have for our cars and how rare they are usually seen on the streets, I don't think anyone could tell if thats just how they are unless they actually see it move up or down.
#36
OMG! That's the same reason why mine is always up!
#37
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#38
I spent 6 years as a CHP officer but left years ago. But to answer your question, I felt that writing speeding tickets was a waste of time. You're standing on the side of the freeway writing some poor soul for 75 mph or so while dozens of people are driving by at 80+. What's the point? If the motorist wasn't driving reckless or tailgating or drunk, I hating pulling then over. I 'd pull them over for speed and then cite only for a seatbelt violation because I completely believe in wearing sealbelts. If it was late at night or early in the morning I'd wait for those doing at least 80.
As to whether an NYPD officer would know that you may have been speeding if the wing came up, I know at least 2 that I drive with who would. That said, they'd be cool enough not to hassle you for such BS.
#39
A fellow Porsche owner told me a funny story a few years back that should summarize the police departments knowledge of Porsches....
After a big Porsche meet, a few of the TT guys decided to have a spirited run on a local highway. 2 of the guys decide to do a quick highway race for the hell of it. Well, right before they let off, they fly by a state trooper who was hiding on the shoulder. Since they were doing well over 100+ mph, they decide to hammer the throttle, book it for the next highway exit, and hide out till they feel its safe to head home. They pull off, drive around for 15 min or so, and sense they got lucky. They head to a local gas station to calm their nerves, get some drinks, and head home.
Not even 5 minutes after parking at the gas station, a bunch of police cruisers fly on the them. Im talking 5+ cruisers, skidding to a stop, acting like they just responded to a bank robbery. Soon after a state trooper pulls up, and identifies the 2 cars as the Porsches he saw racing. Immediately the two Porsche drivers deny all the allegations, but the cop isnt buying it for one second. The drivers are sensing they are completely screwed at this point, but are relentless with their story, saying they have been waiting for friends from the local meet.
The State Trooper decides to end the argument once and for all, and starts walking towards the two Porsches. The drivers have no idea whats going on, but just sit and watch the trooper, hoping for a miracle at this point. The officer then proceeds to feel around the hood on both cars, then lets out a big sigh. As he starts to walk back, the drivers are basically pissing their pants, knowing there probably going to jail. The State Trooper then walks up, looks toward the rest of the officers and says, "Lets go boys. Its not them. There hoods are still cold...."
I love this story....
After a big Porsche meet, a few of the TT guys decided to have a spirited run on a local highway. 2 of the guys decide to do a quick highway race for the hell of it. Well, right before they let off, they fly by a state trooper who was hiding on the shoulder. Since they were doing well over 100+ mph, they decide to hammer the throttle, book it for the next highway exit, and hide out till they feel its safe to head home. They pull off, drive around for 15 min or so, and sense they got lucky. They head to a local gas station to calm their nerves, get some drinks, and head home.
Not even 5 minutes after parking at the gas station, a bunch of police cruisers fly on the them. Im talking 5+ cruisers, skidding to a stop, acting like they just responded to a bank robbery. Soon after a state trooper pulls up, and identifies the 2 cars as the Porsches he saw racing. Immediately the two Porsche drivers deny all the allegations, but the cop isnt buying it for one second. The drivers are sensing they are completely screwed at this point, but are relentless with their story, saying they have been waiting for friends from the local meet.
The State Trooper decides to end the argument once and for all, and starts walking towards the two Porsches. The drivers have no idea whats going on, but just sit and watch the trooper, hoping for a miracle at this point. The officer then proceeds to feel around the hood on both cars, then lets out a big sigh. As he starts to walk back, the drivers are basically pissing their pants, knowing there probably going to jail. The State Trooper then walks up, looks toward the rest of the officers and says, "Lets go boys. Its not them. There hoods are still cold...."
I love this story....
Hooo-llleeee crap!!
#41
If you were still on in California you'd be writing...a lot. All these failing municipalities are using law enforcement as revenue generators. Just the way it is and it will be that way until they can get out of the red. In NYC, the number of different agencies that can issue you a ticket in connection w/car ownership is ridiculous and the more obscure the agency the more aggressively they enforce.
As to whether an NYPD officer would know that you may have been speeding if the wing came up, I know at least 2 that I drive with who would. That said, they'd be cool enough not to hassle you for such BS.
As to whether an NYPD officer would know that you may have been speeding if the wing came up, I know at least 2 that I drive with who would. That said, they'd be cool enough not to hassle you for such BS.
The motor cops get pressured to write tickets from their command staff who are pressured by the police chief because he's getting pressured by the mayor and the city counsel because the city needs money. The cops end up being the bad guys.
Last edited by Onetime; 07-15-2011 at 05:13 PM. Reason: typo
#42
None of which is relevant. It must be thirty years since anyone got a ticket "because I could tell he was speeding, your honor." Cheap radars and lasers mean that honest jurisdictions won't ticket for speeding without one or the other unless special circumstances apply. (They use aircraft on some of our highways to clock cars between known waypoints. That's just another way to precisely measure speed and is the sort of thing I mean by special circumstances.)
A few years ago, some guy with an NSX got a ticket in south central California. An hour or so later he got a ticket at a northern town 130 miles away. (Or so they say on the NSX forums, but I think it's a sports car myth personally.) I'm sure a judge annoyed at fast drivers could take judicial notice of the distance between those points and find for a prosecutor trying to take the guy's license, but even if it's mythical that's just another way to measure speed.
In the seventies, I'd just come back from overseas and had to make a lunchtime run from Vandenberg AFB to Santa Maria. Just outside that latter town, I got stopped. In uniform no less. They were nice, and so was I of course. ("I just got back from assignment in Europe and wasn't watching my speedometer as I really should.) The sergeant who'd been called to join the party reduced the citation to ninety because he said the speed at which the original officer followed me from outside the base gate was jail territory. ("And you in uniform. Tsk tsk.") The relevant point is that he wrote on the ticket how many cars I passed in that ten miles before the stop. (Not many. It's a remote road. But he counted every one, damn it. 14, as I remember.)
Even forty years ago, the lack of any measurement except following speed weakened a ticket. He kept track of cars passed to show a judge my speed was clearly excessive, albeit not measured. Nowadays with all the onboard radars available, only a LEO assigned to some other duty with a non-traffic-enforcement vehicle could explain to a judge why he didn't provide a specific measurement.
Tickets without a measurement of some sort smack of whimsical enforcement these days and fighting one shouldn't be very tough. "His spoiler was up" ain't gonna cut it. On the other hand, with a measurement saying "it goes up from engine temps" is definitely useless.
Gary
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