sport exhaust leads to police complaint
#31
Busybodies are a pet peeve of mine too. There is a woman here who recently moved into the neighborhood and brake checked me and started yelling at me for going 20 on our street (speed limit 15, it was about midnight).
I told her that on this street, we have stuck with each other through hurricanes, lost pets, lockouts, floods, and break ins...and that the last thing we need is for some ****ing busybody to move in here and start telling us how to live our lives. Oh, and that she should kindly **** off.
It was a bit harsh, but as I mentioned, this is my pet peeve and I had just come home on a transcontinental flight and it was midnight![Big Grin](https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
I told her that on this street, we have stuck with each other through hurricanes, lost pets, lockouts, floods, and break ins...and that the last thing we need is for some ****ing busybody to move in here and start telling us how to live our lives. Oh, and that she should kindly **** off.
It was a bit harsh, but as I mentioned, this is my pet peeve and I had just come home on a transcontinental flight and it was midnight
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I'd tell that b*tch to **** off too. She's the new and doesn't know how things work. She should keep her mouth shut until she figures out the dynamics of your close-knit neighborhood.
The worst busybodies are the ones at work. You know who I am talking about. Sometimes a new person will be hired, like a secretary or something like that. They will go and tell people how to do your job, what changes should be made to the system or the way things work even though its only their first week or they have no experience in your field. Ex. It is the worst in hospitals. I have seen secretaries or accountants criticize doctors or nurses even though they have no medical knowledge. These people annoy me the most.
@KEV If I don't sh*t on your front doorstep, consider that a warm welcome. LOL!
Last edited by Inglorious; 09-14-2011 at 08:57 PM.
#32
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I can and will enjoy my bypass, PSE, and HFC headers when I get them installed
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#33
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#36
Not what you're thinking. Someone called the police on me, not because of the level of exhaust noise, but rather because they must have presumed I was speeding based on the exhaust note..? I was in 2nd gear on a small side road and these people with their small children around got very belligerent. I didn't make things any better when I down shifted to first for the stop sign 100 ft. down the road
So, sport exhaust and heel toeing = unhappy volvo drivers.
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Residential areas is not the place to make engine/exhaust noise because you like the sound of it or practice heal-toe shifting.
I could drive at 22mph in my neighborhood just fine, but I'd not do it at 5000-6000rpm. That would be obnoxious and rude.
#37
I flat out disagree. You shouldn't have to modify your driving to appease others. It's your car and you can drive the way you want to drive it (within the confines of the law of course). Forget about worrying about stereotypes. No matter what, people are going to think what they are going to think. They are a douch for thinking you are a douch without getting to know you. If I were the original poster, I'd rev my engines the next time I see some b*tch trying to tell me how to drive. You are not endangering anyone's life. She should mind her own d*mn business and I'll mind my own. Not to be an a*s, but it is a pet peeve of mine when people stick their nose into your business when it really isn't any of their business. It's annoying.
I will drive my car however I like to drive my car as long as I do so legally. I don't rev my engines in neighborhoods. But if other people do so legally, then by all means go ahead. Point is, these busy bodies should not be wagging their fingers at anyone. People are following the laws, are not hurting anyone, and not putting anyone in danger. Some cars are innately loud, like Ferraris and Lambos. But if those exhausts are within the allotted dB levels, then they are doing no wrong in the eyes of the law. So what if their cars a little loud. They are still following the laws. They may be rude or obnoxious (I'd like to remind everyone that people have the freedom to do so), but that isn't mutually exclusive from following the laws.
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Here is the comment:
I can't agree with you about driving your car any way you like. It's my Sig-Sauer too, but I don't engage in target practice at two AM. Why intentionally irritate people?
I said you can drive your car anyway you like within the confines of the law. That is very clearly stated. Where did I ever say that it is okay to "engage in target practice at two AM?" Please point it out to me. Again, this is a useless comment that really does not 1) further the discussion 2) provide humor 3) is constructive in any way, shape, or form.
Last edited by Inglorious; 09-15-2011 at 03:23 PM.
#38
[quote=jhbrennan;3314278]We try to find the vehicle. If we do, we observe it for any signs of the behavior complained about. If we see it we stop them and may write them up. But in this instance we have to witness the violation ourselves. If we find the vehicle but don't see any issues we will some times stop them just to let them know someone complained. Once people know how it works it seems to be a good deterrent to at least get them to stop and think before having a fit of road rage.
#39
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Just out of curiosity, I wonder how many the three that went full course had an attorney. "Citizen's Arrest" or "Grand Jury Indictment" there remain burdens of proof that must be met and procedures that must be followed so there must have been more to the stories than a "He said - She said" complaint.
It's not really that complicated. The person(s) filing the complaint testify and make their case or not. The accused is allowed to give their side of the story. The judge weighs the evidence and testimony given by both sides, the same as if he's deciding any other case without a jury. It's usually multiple neighbors ganged up against some kid that lives in the neighborhood and has been hot rodding around numerous times. When you have multiple witnesses against you it's tough to convince the judge otherwise.
Just out of curiosity, I wonder how many the three that went full course had an attorney. "Citizen's Arrest" or "Grand Jury Indictment" there remain burdens of proof that must be met and procedures that must be followed so there must have been more to the stories than a "He said - She said" complaint.
#40
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It's not really that complicated. The person(s) filing the complaint testify and make their case or not. The accused is allowed to give their side of the story. The judge weighs the evidence and testimony given by both sides, the same as if he's deciding any other case without a jury. It's usually multiple neighbors ganged up against some kid that lives in the neighborhood and has been hot rodding around numerous times. When you have multiple witnesses against you it's tough to convince the judge otherwise.
Unless they are all equally retarded (typical housewife that believes that magic happens when you turn a key).
I was told to slow down in a 25mph zone, going 25mph (and 35mph in a 35mph school zone). If there are a group of people that said I was speeding, are you suggesting that I could lose?
This is why we all need black boxes.
It's not really that complicated. The person(s) filing the complaint testify and make their case or not. The accused is allowed to give their side of the story. The judge weighs the evidence and testimony given by both sides, the same as if he's deciding any other case without a jury. It's usually multiple neighbors ganged up against some kid that lives in the neighborhood and has been hot rodding around numerous times. When you have multiple witnesses against you it's tough to convince the judge otherwise.
I was told to slow down in a 25mph zone, going 25mph (and 35mph in a 35mph school zone). If there are a group of people that said I was speeding, are you suggesting that I could lose?
This is why we all need black boxes.
#41
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You know, I have heard of a few cases where the judge dismissed people who recorded the speed that they were going using their gps, smartphone, and google maps (or some other smartphone map app). Perhaps we should all be using google maps to protect against your average desperate housewife or Polly Prissy Pants.
It is interesting how technology can be wielded to protect you against annoy and prying people.
Unless they are all equally retarded (typical housewife that believes that magic happens when you turn a key).
I was told to slow down in a 25mph zone, going 25mph (and 35mph in a 35mph school zone). If there are a group of people that said I was speeding, are you suggesting that I could lose?
This is why we all need black boxes.
I was told to slow down in a 25mph zone, going 25mph (and 35mph in a 35mph school zone). If there are a group of people that said I was speeding, are you suggesting that I could lose?
This is why we all need black boxes.
It is interesting how technology can be wielded to protect you against annoy and prying people.
Last edited by Inglorious; 09-15-2011 at 09:02 PM.
#42
Despite having the fastest cars on my block I am probably the slowest driver in my neighborhood . In fact I have even had Camrys and Tahoes riding my bumper .
My neigborhood is not particularly close knit . There's an absence of nosey neighbors .
Sometimes that's good . Other times I wish I could run to a neighbor and ask for a lemon or ketchup if needed .. but i don't .
A residential neighborhood is quiet and when people are in their homes they like peace and quiet . They don't like to feel worry over a car speeding .
Of course we (the reader) only reads one side of the story .
In my opinion .,, the person who wrote the complaint must have been upset and the Op is also not happy . Maybe they can find some middle ground . After all .. they do live close together and sometimes a little effort can go a long way.
My neigborhood is not particularly close knit . There's an absence of nosey neighbors .
Sometimes that's good . Other times I wish I could run to a neighbor and ask for a lemon or ketchup if needed .. but i don't .
A residential neighborhood is quiet and when people are in their homes they like peace and quiet . They don't like to feel worry over a car speeding .
Of course we (the reader) only reads one side of the story .
In my opinion .,, the person who wrote the complaint must have been upset and the Op is also not happy . Maybe they can find some middle ground . After all .. they do live close together and sometimes a little effort can go a long way.
#43
If you are revving your engines within the allotted dB limit enumerated in the laws, then it's all good. If your car is making more noise then what is legally allowed, then it is your fault. But so long as you follow the laws, then I don't see why it would be anyone's business to tell you how to drive.
Another thing. If you're walking in the park, and you suddenly see/hear a sports car revved to high-rpm approaching, is your first thought "oh, he's probably just doing 20mph in first gear?" No. It's "I need to get out of the way NOW so I don't DIE." It's very difficult to judge the true speed of a passing car, as many have pointed out. To me, these people are responding in a reasonable manner.
#44
It's not against the law to talk loudly on your cell phone in the library. So, is it okay then? Nobody's business, right?
Another thing. If you're walking in the park, and you suddenly see/hear a sports car revved to high-rpm approaching, is your first thought "oh, he's probably just doing 20mph in first gear?" No. It's "I need to get out of the way NOW so I don't DIE." It's very difficult to judge the true speed of a passing car, as many have pointed out. To me, these people are responding in a reasonable manner.
Another thing. If you're walking in the park, and you suddenly see/hear a sports car revved to high-rpm approaching, is your first thought "oh, he's probably just doing 20mph in first gear?" No. It's "I need to get out of the way NOW so I don't DIE." It's very difficult to judge the true speed of a passing car, as many have pointed out. To me, these people are responding in a reasonable manner.
With the park scenario, you hit on an important point. You don't know how fast other people are going. People are using emotions or heuristics instead of using facts or quantitative information. To me, it just doesn't seem right for someone to wag their finger and to tell someone else how to drive or to slow down if they aren't speeding and driving within the confines that the law dictates is acceptable and safe. These busybodies are not trained. They are not cops. They have no authority. They aren't professionals who work in the DMV. So, I think it is perfectly reasonable that they should mind their own business if someone is driving within the speed limit.
For the record, I'll be the first to admit that I drive like a grandma. Beat up old camrys and tacomas built before 90's tailgate me. I don't exceed the speed limit very often because I don't want speeding tickets.
#45
there is ******baggery, like redlining your car all the time.. and it can be annoying.. but that is just as annoying to me as a harley coming up.. both are loud and just disturb the peace
should we ban cruiser bikes because they are loud?
there are disturbing the peace laws, and lord knows I've had my share of tickets for those (mostly music from BBQs).. However a loud bike or a car zooming is a mild annoyance like a mosquito that flies too close to your ear... you know? swat it off and live your life... Do people have nothing better to do than to call the police over something as retarded as that?
and as inglorious said, these people have no way of gauging the speed. Even trained police officer can't know by the naked eye.
It is like a passenger telling off a pilot for a "rough" landing.
should we ban cruiser bikes because they are loud?
there are disturbing the peace laws, and lord knows I've had my share of tickets for those (mostly music from BBQs).. However a loud bike or a car zooming is a mild annoyance like a mosquito that flies too close to your ear... you know? swat it off and live your life... Do people have nothing better to do than to call the police over something as retarded as that?
and as inglorious said, these people have no way of gauging the speed. Even trained police officer can't know by the naked eye.
It is like a passenger telling off a pilot for a "rough" landing.