I have to side with Manifold on this one. I didn't see this at all in Manifold's post.

I respectfully disagree (please no neg rep point ). I think they are just out dated stereotypes. I think many of us are aware that Porsche isn't exactly exclusive anymore, especially with the baby boxster and cajun around the corner.

 

My comments weren't meant to specifically criticize your action, so I made a mistake in quoting your message. Sorry for the confusion.

I also disapproved of that other post openly complaining about the neg rep (though I didn't neg rep it, and generally don't give neg reps). I thought it perfectly illustrated my point about the downside of the rep point system in general, related to preoccupation with rep.

On the polls, yup, that was me. I still disagree with moving the polls, and I think a poll in 997 to ask everyone's opinion about that would best determine where the polls should be, but I recognize that it's not up to me.

 

Thanks for the support.

I agree that Porsche can't really be considered exclusive anymore, though this may depend on where one is. For example, not long ago I drove from Richmond to Baltimore (4 hours) on I-95 and I recall being struck by the observation that I didn't see a single a Porsche along the way until I got near my destination, where I then saw four of them within 5 minutes.

 

Thinking about this more, it does seem plausible that the passion of (some) guys in BMW forums runs so high that they could be motivated to attack others. It may be a milder analog of the zealots throughout history who have burned people alive, impaled people, engaged in systematic genocide, killed masses in terrorist acts, etc. People are capable of horrific things, so maybe a little controversy in a car forum isn't such a big deal by comparison.

But there's still the question of why we see more of this in BMW forums than Porsche forums. Could the BMW guys be that much more passionate?

 

funny enough i never saw a rolls-royce owners bashing somebody`s car... why would that be...

c`mon, you guys take it to some odd level with all this. bmw, lotus, porsche - all those are fine cars. way better than an average hyunday/toyota/honda. who cares...

 

No doubt they're all fine cars. Just trying to figure out the reason for the notorious attitude of some BMW guys, thinking that might indirectly tell us something about Porsche guys too. But as you imply, it may be too off-topic to pursue further.

 

Maybe it isn't off-topic at all...

WHAT IF - the person who is doing all of this, is a BMW owner?

ooooooohhhhhh... Yeah, I went there.

(I know in my heart, that the average enthusiast may be a hater of other brands, but would not consider vandalism)

 

Interesting hypothesis. A complication is that many people own both Porsches and BMWs ... including me.

I guess the underlying question is whether particular cars tend to attract particular personalities and demographics of buyers. I think that's the case, and that marketing departments spend a lot of time looking into that (I'd love to get my hands on that info). After all, that's what branding is all about. Some of the ads I've seen from Porsche indicate that they know their market very well:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zh9c_V9ocyg

The third person fits me pretty well, and the last one fits my wife.

 

my point exactly...BFD if you point at other owners and question why they buy, act or post the way they do.

We are bascally all in the same boat.

 

Lurk in the M3 forums for a while and then tell us if you still feel that way. Or if you really want to have some fun, tell them the handling of the M3 sucks compared to the 911 because it sits too high and the engine is at the wrong end, then take cover.

 

The BMW guys are brutal characters. I don't think they have the Reputation calculator.

 

As a former BMW owner (330i 135i) I used to spend a lot of time in the forum I mentioned previsously. I can say what stuck me most about 6speed is the lack of animosity directed at other owners of from the same manufacturer. I have yet to see a post here where a 997 owner looks down on an owner of a Cayman or Boxster or Cayenne or Panamera. I have never seen a post where it was suggested that owners of those vehicles somehow didn't own a real Porsche. I haven't seen a post were a Turbo owner or a GT3 or GT2 owner looked down a C2S. Just doesn't happen here.

In the BMW world they vicsiously attack each other. 328 owners are posers because they don't drive 335s. 335 owners must be inadequate and don't apprecaite the better balanced 328. All 3 series owners hate M3 owners and 1 series owners. 1 series owners hate on E90 guys and M3 guys. It is ridiculous beyond words.

 

Doh....

I'm not discussing the cars...i speaking about the ability to join any one of these brands of ownership.

And the attitude that someone is elite because they can buy a porsche lead IMO to vandalism to some degree.


If you can buy an M3 or c63 you can buy a porsche. We are all in the same boat and make choices based on what appeals to us.

So who cares if they rant and rave. Thats what they like..so be it. Doesn't make you any smarter or better car buyer.

 

keep em coming......

 

If you like this one, check out the one directed at Chuck! That one is starting to pick up some steam! LOL