Fellas
Has anyone here with experience having a 911 (you guys know what I mean) tried a CTS-V coupe for longer than a test drive? The features and specs on that car are fairly tempting if compared to a 997 or even 991. To match the power and torque one would need to compare to a turbo, which costs more than double. But power without control...

So I ask, anyone had a similar question and opted for the CTS-V? Should one abandon the P-car nation until low-mile used 991 can be found at a decent price?
Thanks

JM

 

just say no

 

Best joke I've seen today.

 

I still prefer a Porsche

 

I can't imagine anyone seriously comparing my GTS to a CTS-V, they are so completely different. However, I also have a Panamera 4S and I've been invited to a CTS-V demo event coming up in December at a local race track. I decided to go, since it's a chance to play with 550+ hp while using up somebody else's tires and brakes. I suspect that a valid comparison point would be Panamera Turbo vs. CTS-V. I have drive a few Panny turbos, so I think it'd be fun to try the CTS-V.

I suspect the comparison would be similar to a 911 vs. Corvette comparison. Each is a terrific car in its own right, but they're just very different cars aimed at different folks. It'll be fun to see what I think. I haven't driven a Cadillac (or even ridden in one) since I learned to drive (mid-60's) in my Dad's '61 Sedan de Ville.

DMoore
'11 GTS
'10 Panamera 4S

 

I have been on track with CTS-V's lately, and they are no joke. A couple thousand dollars in simple suspension upgrades transforms that car into a legitimate beast. Our old friend Jared (BlaktOut) sold his highly modified 997S and is now tracking a CTS-V with only suspension upgrades.

However, no Cadillac will ever appeal to me, especially not as a sports car.
Porsche wins in my book, for reasons beyond pure performance.
CATTMAN

 

I haven't driven the CTS-V coupe but I have spent quite a bit of time behind the wheel of the CTS-V wagon (both stick and auto). IMO, poke fun all you want but the CTS-V is no joke.

The powertrain is nothing short of amazing and the suspension is actually pretty good. It's not 911 but then, it's a lot bigger, heavier, etc. than a 911.

Where the Caddy falls down is the details. The seats (even the Recaro option) are TERRIBLE. The fit and finish is worlds better than American cars of yesteryear but still not as good as a modern Porsche or Audi.

But if I were looking for a powerful sedan, I'd absolutely cross shop the CTS-V with the BMW, Audi, MB, etc. The Panamera might compete on paper but the cost differential really doesn't mean it's in the same league, IMO.

 

Thanks for the input

In addition, another reason to look into the V coupe is the back seat. My 997 is my daily driver and the family just grew a little more and the back seat of the 997 cannot support rear facing chair. The 991 apparently will allow it, but one cannot be that sure until you see it.

The caddy with its 2 valve per cylinder pushrod engine is somewhat an anacronysm nowadays, but it seems to deliver well. Cheap speed at least on paper.

As you said, not a lot of money in mods and it can become closer to a performance car, but still weights 4200+ lbs compared to around 3500 lb on the 997.

For some there is no question about it, particularly in this forum, but you can't deny that 556hp is tempting for the price. It's not far fetched that the difference between my 09 versus a new 991s will be close for the value of a V coupe, so perhaps keep the 997 and get an extra fun-car for the difference...

 

if u decide on the V make sure u order the optional interior........

 

I read the same thing about finish and the seats, somewhat common in american cars.

I tried M3 and 650 conv- too heavy and sluggish, the latter is a classical GT car, not sport at all; had a C55 (depreciation on AMG/MB are just awful, learned my lesson), Audi in the Houston area is out of question.
Stretching the discussion a bit, even a MY10 Maserati GT can be found with low miles for around 95k, but the depreciation on this one is even worse than MB, and the mainatance of italian cars tends to be compliacated due to their warranty policy (i.e. I change the oil in my car and reset the board computer myself, that would void a Maserati warranty, allegedly)
I also looked into some 2010 Panamera S (88-90k) and turbo (115-120), but the price makes you wonder if it's worth waiting for the 991. Between the two, it looks like the aspirated is more economically interesting, but thata would be another thread.

Thanks for the opinions

 

A CTS-V may be a great car but... compare it to a 911?!? Apples and oranges.

 

I'm proud of AMerica making cars like the CTS-V and Vette ZR1. Considering the stratospheric Porsche prices, the Caddy and Chevy are very nice options.

 

+1. That being said, I'm not to thrilled with Gummit Motors, their celebrating the latest PRC propaganda video, or the fact that they owe the US taxpayers $$.

GM may be building some of the best vehicles they have in years (including the new Buicks); but they are no Porsche... and never will be. A 911 & a CTS-V are two completely different animals- one with a substantive history, heritage & pedigree; the other with none comparable.

 

If rear seats are needed .. I'd rather have an M3 even though on a straight run ithe M is slower . It lacks the balance that BMW is known for . Plus for practical daily use I prefer what BMW offers (not in specific order) ..quality engineering , comfy interior , reliability . gadetry . safety . free maintenace,

CtSV is no joke on a straight run though .

As for the 997S .. different car . If you want some of the comforts and no horsepower doubt .. my opinion is to look at the Turbo.

 

I had the chance to spend a full day on the Monticello Motor Club track (long circuit 4.1 miles) driving the Caddy. I was impressed with the overall performance of the car. But it's a BIG car relative to my 997. I think I was most impressed that such a big car could perform as it did. Granted, every 30 minutes I'd have to pit to let everything cool off. I would not call it a sports car in the sense a 997 is a sports car. It is a solid GT car performance wise. The interior left a lot to be desired. From the push button to open the doors to the overall fit a finish, it just seems like GM is trying too hard to be euro and missing it by a mile....

Overall fun to drive - would not buy one - but hustling one around a track is a fun and unique experience....

Matt