B&M Short Shifter
#16
If doing it right means using lesser quality parts just because they are stamped Porsche you knocked it out of the park.... sorry, but the B/M kit is built much better. Both great set ups but would go BM all the way for quality and from what I hear for the real enthusiasts a bit tighter of a set up... remember the oem kit is for those that want a shorter throw but still for the masses....so they are not going to make it change from stock all that much. BM is for someone that is seeking out a better, tighter, shorter set up and again much better made...
Not saying OEM is bad but to say doing right is to use oem parts in this case just isn't even close to accurate.
Not saying OEM is bad but to say doing right is to use oem parts in this case just isn't even close to accurate.
And if you're comparing the parts themselves, I never questioned the quality of the B&M, just that it wasn't a good of a total solution. Remember that Porsche doesn't build these shift units, the simply spec them to a supplier and then do a first-rate job of installation during assembly. Can't remember who the supplier is for the OEM shifters (it isn't B&M???), but it's still VERY high quality.
To each his own, I guess. But from my perspective I've gained a much better shifting experience per stock with a much better total package than what the B&M option gives.
Remember, once the you break apart the assembly to install the B&M, it's that much more difficult to go back. No such concerns with the OEM. Only open up the center console, unhook the cables, and unscrew 4 bolts...then replace. Can always go back EASILY if you so choose.
#17
hmmmm
If one wants to go back to stock and reclaiming some of the costs of the kit back in your pocket then I agree, well somewhat....OEM is better if ones end game plan will be to remove I agree, but not sure how many "used kits" move out there. I certainly would never buy a used short shift set up... I am not sure the savings would be there vs buying new as they are not all that expensive...unless the seller was giving it away... but if then why even go through the hassel of removing and trying to sell it etc..
yes, if you prefer a bit of a lesser built product build wise (you have to agree, one is plastic modifies existing set up and the other alloy/metal and replaces with a better built set up) and going back to stock is important I would agree.
Do give you props for doing it yourself.....
Bottom line OEM and BM is better then no kit.... just stand by that going with the BM is a great way to go and certainly not the wrong way to go vs OEM just "another way"....
Surprised the GTS did not come with one stock, they offer so much in that car would think this would be a great added piece.... make it a option to delete of course. Great car you have there....
yes, if you prefer a bit of a lesser built product build wise (you have to agree, one is plastic modifies existing set up and the other alloy/metal and replaces with a better built set up) and going back to stock is important I would agree.
Do give you props for doing it yourself.....
Bottom line OEM and BM is better then no kit.... just stand by that going with the BM is a great way to go and certainly not the wrong way to go vs OEM just "another way"....
Surprised the GTS did not come with one stock, they offer so much in that car would think this would be a great added piece.... make it a option to delete of course. Great car you have there....
Doesn't the B&M require the shift assembly to be 'broken' in order to replace the shifter? The OEM is a complete replacement unit. So NOTHING in the shift assembly needs to be taken apart. And when you're finished, you can hold on to that original shift assembly in case you decide to go back, or sell it to a 9x6 owner that wants a slight upgrade (and therefore get back some of the additional $$$ that you sent to go with the OEM.
And if you're comparing the parts themselves, I never questioned the quality of the B&M, just that it wasn't a good of a total solution. Remember that Porsche doesn't build these shift units, the simply spec them to a supplier and then do a first-rate job of installation during assembly. Can't remember who the supplier is for the OEM shifters (it isn't B&M???), but it's still VERY high quality.
To each his own, I guess. But from my perspective I've gained a much better shifting experience per stock with a much better total package than what the B&M option gives.
Remember, once the you break apart the assembly to install the B&M, it's that much more difficult to go back. No such concerns with the OEM. Only open up the center console, unhook the cables, and unscrew 4 bolts...then replace. Can always go back EASILY if you so choose.
And if you're comparing the parts themselves, I never questioned the quality of the B&M, just that it wasn't a good of a total solution. Remember that Porsche doesn't build these shift units, the simply spec them to a supplier and then do a first-rate job of installation during assembly. Can't remember who the supplier is for the OEM shifters (it isn't B&M???), but it's still VERY high quality.
To each his own, I guess. But from my perspective I've gained a much better shifting experience per stock with a much better total package than what the B&M option gives.
Remember, once the you break apart the assembly to install the B&M, it's that much more difficult to go back. No such concerns with the OEM. Only open up the center console, unhook the cables, and unscrew 4 bolts...then replace. Can always go back EASILY if you so choose.
Last edited by mickfluff; 01-26-2012 at 04:17 PM.
#22
May be true...but the B&M SSK is very different than the Porsche OEM. You can find side-by-side pictures and it is evident they are different.
#23
We are the primary distributor for B&M for the Porsche short shift kit. B&M still makes its bulletproof top of the line shifter for Porsche vehicles and we stock it every day below list. We ship these units to dealers, tuners and customers every week.
For those who are fearful of a lease turn in, it's not obvious when you do turn it in, and yes, if you do want to return to stock you will need those cheesy plastic bushings and tower back.
Beyond that, they are both excellent solutions to Porsche's relatively sloppy shifter. Either way, you will improve the experience. I've driven both. The B&M is just a bit more precise and a shorter throw than the stock short shift kit. But again, both are good. Machined bushings on the B&M certainly provide peace of mind as well.
For those who are fearful of a lease turn in, it's not obvious when you do turn it in, and yes, if you do want to return to stock you will need those cheesy plastic bushings and tower back.
Beyond that, they are both excellent solutions to Porsche's relatively sloppy shifter. Either way, you will improve the experience. I've driven both. The B&M is just a bit more precise and a shorter throw than the stock short shift kit. But again, both are good. Machined bushings on the B&M certainly provide peace of mind as well.
Last edited by Eric (Plug Guy); 01-29-2012 at 03:18 PM.
#24
eric, or anyone that has the ssk, is this piece part of the ssk or is it an extra to be added after? http://www.ebay.com/itm/130429100596...WAX:IT&vxp=mtr
#25
My Porsche dealer who sold and installed my B&M dissuaded me from from the OEM saying ..."B&M makes Porsche's SSK.... Save the money..."
So yes, another vote for the B&M as has been mentioned.
I also hear that the OEM is a full replacement "box" and the B&M is simply the "internals".
So yes, another vote for the B&M as has been mentioned.
I also hear that the OEM is a full replacement "box" and the B&M is simply the "internals".
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