Here is road test summary from R & T. is this true?

Model Horespower 0~60mph 0-100mph

997 Carrera S 355 3.9 9.6
996 GT2 456 3.6 8.9
996 GT3 380 4.2 9.5
996TT 415 4.0 9.2
996 Targa 320 5.0 12.0

 

trying to start a fight???????????LOL.....

 

That 3.9 number for the 997S has been "enthusiastically" discussed for a while. Best guess, the magazine got a pretty healthy specimen of 997S, and managed to pull off the perfect launch.

In real world terms, the 997S is probably midway between a 996 NA and Turbo. The Turbo has a better torque curve, and will pull progressively harder at higher speeds as the weight penalty becomes less of a factor and absolute drag versus absolute horsepower takes over. By the same token, the 997S gets progressively more impressively quick vs the 996 NA at higher speeds as more power and better aerodynamics come into play.

There's no doubt, though, that the 997S is a comprehensively better performer than the 996 NA. Gets me pretty warm in my unmentionable parts at the prospect of the 997TT. I'm really hoping Porsche pulls something out of their hat with that car.

 

3.9 for 997 just like 3.5 for F430. a little bit of luck or really bad for the clutch.

 

With the F430's paddle shifters it's possible if you have optimal conditions. I believe the F430 has launch mode as well doesn't it?

 

yes it has but if u really think about it:
1. u don't want to use it too many time u know how much it's gonna cost.

2. launch control is for computer to rev the engine to certain rpm then drop the clutch. yes mags test the 0-60 when the car starts moving. how about the time the car spinning before it launches itself? doesn't make sense if u apply it to daily traffic light situation when a idiot next to u want to race.

997 too in this case. just the launch control is the left foot.

 

Well the US magazines are famed for their incredible performance figures.The 997S has been tested across europe at the follwing times ..0-60,0-100

997S ...4.6,10.8
996tt (420bhp) 4.0,9.5

HAving driven the 997s ,i felt its performance very close to the 996tt which I had,and very close to the SL55 I currently have.It is a seriously quick car.

 

Last track day I attended I was at it with a 997S, among others. I could easily pull away on the straights and even in the corners, he didn't have that much of an advantage, if any. The only disadvantage he might have had, if you can call it that, was that he had the regular red brakes against my PCCB II's. Three laps and his brakes were smoking.

Seems like R&T's figures were greatly exaggerated.

 

I absolutely agree with you guys that the mags get some outrageous numbers. You have to remember, they don't own the cars so they don't care how bad a car has to be thrashed to get a good launch.

My personal gripe about the C2 996 is that it is ridiculously difficult to launch well. The clutch is too weak for a really nice high RPM drop from a standstill. One of two things will happen in a C2.

1. Terrible rear wheel hop, there is no way you can keep that going if you care about your car at all. It feels like the whole chassis is going to be ripped apart.

2. Clutch slip.

I have no idea what the 997s is like as I have not even test driven a 997s. However, I do know that the C4 (and probably the TT) is much easier to launch well. The C2 is not good at standing start speed contests.

I don't think the launch mode on the 430 is something that is any worse for the car than a perfect manual clutch launch. I think it just optimizes a hard launch like with BMW's SMG tranny. I read somewhere that 13 or 14% wheelspin is considered optimal for a perfect launch. The Ferrari is supposed to achieve that I believe. They use the same percentage in F1 racing launch modes. I tried out my friend's Gallardo with the E-shift paddles and all I can say is..... DAMN it launches hard! It feels like my CBR954RR. It is absolutely scary how fast it is from a standstill.

 

I test drove a 997 S and was not impressed with the acceleration. I stock tt would have no problem outrunning a 997 S.

 

Tailwind?

 

I think a better indicator of performance for the real world is 5-60 that C&D records. This is more indicitive of the type of drags that you see on the street.

 

if 3.9 is true.. thats a great time

 

i agree with the others.

the car mag guys do things that most people wouldn't do to a 20k car let alone a 100k+ car. i'm not dropping my clutch for a 0-60 time. no way, no how. i know what my car is capable of doing and though i haven't driven the 997, my non x-50 has good boost at low rpms.

 

Having driven all three numerous times it goes a lil' something like this:

If all three were in a drag race and properly launched (fat chance), then the TT would pull away off of the line instantly. The GT3 and its light weight will pull ahead of the 997S slightly also. It's all about torque at this point. Once the cars are up and above 120 that picture won't change except that the top end will kick in on the Turbo over the 997S especially and the GT3 would still be in the middle.

We're not talking many car lengths between the TT and GT3 (since they are also underated from the factory) but probably 6-8 between the TT and 997S.