Installed iPE Innotech Valvetronic (Muffler Only)
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03-14-2012, 05:07 PM
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Installed iPE Innotech Valvetronic (Muffler Only)
I thought I would post some videos of the iPE Innotech Valvetronic Mufflers that I installed on my '07 Targa 4S ("T4S"). I absolutely love the sound I heard from the iPE videos on the 997 posted on YouTube, they sound like a Formula One Car!!
That is what I thought my car would sound like when I added the mufflers, but it didn't work out that way. I emailed iPE Innotech about the sound and they told me that to get my car to sound exactly like the video, I would have to install their header and de-cat pipe. That is another $3,300 in parts. By the way, iPE Innotech was very courteous and helpful explaining what the issue was. I do want that sound.
I thought the sound was from the valvetronic mufflers and I will have to decide if will do the rest of the exhaust. Lesson learned... One concern is whether I would pass Colorado Emissions with the de-cat installed. So, I might not be able to get "THAT" sound. I love the mufflers and they do sound good, but they are noticeably quieter than my Gundo Hacked mufflers. I guess I just need to "Pump Up The Volume" behind the mufflers to get the sound.
I only have a video of my previous mufflers after I Gundo Hacked them, so you will be comparing the iPE Innotech Valvetronic Mufflers to my Gundo Hacked Mufflers. There are four clips: First of the iPE Innotech Valvetronic Full Exhaust System (What I was told by iPE); Second, my Gundo Hacked mufflers (which I still love); and then two of my car with the iPE Innotech Valvetronic mufflers. Let me know your thoughts!
Video One: iPE Innotech Valvetronic sound I hoped for:
Video Two: My '07 T4S with Gundo Hacked Mufflers:
Video Three: 1st video of the iPE Innotech Valvetronic (mufflers only) on my '07 T4S:
Video Four: 2nd video of the iPE Innotech Valvetronic (mufflers only) on my '07 T4S:
That is what I thought my car would sound like when I added the mufflers, but it didn't work out that way. I emailed iPE Innotech about the sound and they told me that to get my car to sound exactly like the video, I would have to install their header and de-cat pipe. That is another $3,300 in parts. By the way, iPE Innotech was very courteous and helpful explaining what the issue was. I do want that sound.
I thought the sound was from the valvetronic mufflers and I will have to decide if will do the rest of the exhaust. Lesson learned... One concern is whether I would pass Colorado Emissions with the de-cat installed. So, I might not be able to get "THAT" sound. I love the mufflers and they do sound good, but they are noticeably quieter than my Gundo Hacked mufflers. I guess I just need to "Pump Up The Volume" behind the mufflers to get the sound.
I only have a video of my previous mufflers after I Gundo Hacked them, so you will be comparing the iPE Innotech Valvetronic Mufflers to my Gundo Hacked Mufflers. There are four clips: First of the iPE Innotech Valvetronic Full Exhaust System (What I was told by iPE); Second, my Gundo Hacked mufflers (which I still love); and then two of my car with the iPE Innotech Valvetronic mufflers. Let me know your thoughts!
Video One: iPE Innotech Valvetronic sound I hoped for:
Video Two: My '07 T4S with Gundo Hacked Mufflers:
Video Three: 1st video of the iPE Innotech Valvetronic (mufflers only) on my '07 T4S:
Video Four: 2nd video of the iPE Innotech Valvetronic (mufflers only) on my '07 T4S:
#2
03-14-2012, 06:45 PM
How in heck are headers and de-cat pipes (i.e., just a straight pipe?) $3300??
Maybe add AWE cats. Will definitely kick up the sound and a bit of power too.
Aftermarket airbox is another relatively cheap way to add sound, especially at the top end.
Maybe add AWE cats. Will definitely kick up the sound and a bit of power too.
Aftermarket airbox is another relatively cheap way to add sound, especially at the top end.
#3
03-14-2012, 08:37 PM
Don,
If you want to upgrade to the catless headers - send us a PM, we have a few options you might like. The main sound increase will come from the decat pipes.
If you want to upgrade to the catless headers - send us a PM, we have a few options you might like. The main sound increase will come from the decat pipes.
#5
03-14-2012, 11:57 PM
Weren't you guys saying that you would get most of the sound in the promo vid from mufflers only...
Now it's this...
#6
03-14-2012, 11:59 PM
To the OP: Your exhaust still sounds pretty good. The hack may have been louder, but with these I think the sound is more Italian. Not bad...
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03-15-2012, 12:03 AM
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I hadn't thought about it. My thought was to keep it and let it go when I sell down the road. Considering the hack is around $250, the shipping would probably make it not worth the money unless local.
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03-15-2012, 12:05 AM
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Wow, I forgot about that! Thank you for reminding me. Honestly I was disappointed, but thought it was my lack of understanding the exhaust system.
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03-15-2012, 12:06 AM
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Thank you, it still needs more volume!
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03-15-2012, 12:13 PM
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Rep Power: 78 It seems like cats are viewed as the better mod than headers. Any idea why?
#14
03-15-2012, 01:19 PM
As discussed over PM with Don, that is still the case.
The headers have very little do to with sound as they are not a sound deadening device on any exhaust system. The design of the IPE headers are also a limited improvement over stock and as such, the tone will barely change.
The real difference, and as explained to Don via PM is in the catted versus catless pipes. A catless system will introduce the famous "IPE" rasp that defines its signature sound. The system was designed as a package, the mufflers were developed to work with the added decibel output of a catless system. The mufflers only, as experienced by Don, will not re-create the sound in the IPE clip.
The headers have very little do to with sound as they are not a sound deadening device on any exhaust system. The design of the IPE headers are also a limited improvement over stock and as such, the tone will barely change.
The real difference, and as explained to Don via PM is in the catted versus catless pipes. A catless system will introduce the famous "IPE" rasp that defines its signature sound. The system was designed as a package, the mufflers were developed to work with the added decibel output of a catless system. The mufflers only, as experienced by Don, will not re-create the sound in the IPE clip.
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03-15-2012, 01:24 PM
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Rep Power: 78 As discussed over PM with Don, that is still the case.
The headers have very little do to with sound as they are not a sound deadening device on any exhaust system. The design of the IPE headers are also a limited improvement over stock and as such, the tone will barely change.
The real difference, and as explained to Don via PM is in the catted versus catless pipes. A catless system will introduce the famous "IPE" rasp that defines its signature sound. The system was designed as a package, the mufflers were developed to work with the added decibel output of a catless system. The mufflers only, as experienced by Don, will not re-create the sound in the IPE clip.
The headers have very little do to with sound as they are not a sound deadening device on any exhaust system. The design of the IPE headers are also a limited improvement over stock and as such, the tone will barely change.
The real difference, and as explained to Don via PM is in the catted versus catless pipes. A catless system will introduce the famous "IPE" rasp that defines its signature sound. The system was designed as a package, the mufflers were developed to work with the added decibel output of a catless system. The mufflers only, as experienced by Don, will not re-create the sound in the IPE clip.