Trying to pull the trigger - 997S
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05-07-2012 | 10:04 AM
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That is what I plan on as well, find the car, negotiate the price then run the PPI.
I have been trying to prescreen the cars via CarFax. For instance there is a very nice/clean car up in Wisconsin that I am interested in but then on the carfax it shows:
2 owners both for 2+ years - This is fine
No accidents - This is great!
Service history - constant service records of the rear wing/spoiler being replaced/repaired (pops up every 10k miles or so) and the computer module being repaire/replaced, removal of the engine and transmission (RMS I assume)
So while the car looks great, is from a Porsche dealer and while priced on the high end it would be a consideration, the service history steers me away, especially at that higher price.
I have been trying to prescreen the cars via CarFax. For instance there is a very nice/clean car up in Wisconsin that I am interested in but then on the carfax it shows:
2 owners both for 2+ years - This is fine
No accidents - This is great!
Service history - constant service records of the rear wing/spoiler being replaced/repaired (pops up every 10k miles or so) and the computer module being repaire/replaced, removal of the engine and transmission (RMS I assume)
So while the car looks great, is from a Porsche dealer and while priced on the high end it would be a consideration, the service history steers me away, especially at that higher price.
Good luck with your search!
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05-07-2012 | 10:54 AM
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Argh! Found a great 2009 C4 - Blue/Tan at a dealer and couldn't get them to return my call last week. Finally got a hold of someone at the dealer and the car was sold in 2hrs once it hit the dealer at the start of last week.
Car was priced at $57k, would have been a steal for anyone!
Car was priced at $57k, would have been a steal for anyone!
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05-07-2012 | 11:11 AM
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I'd steer clear of that car as well. CarFax is already spotty as it is - if something shows up on it that is a major item (like needing the PCM repaired multiple times) you know that wasn't a simple "fix it." I wouldn't want to inherit that headache!
Good luck with your search!
Good luck with your search!
Here is the CarFax report:
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05-07-2012 | 11:31 AM
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Argh! Found a great 2009 C4 - Blue/Tan at a dealer and couldn't get them to return my call last week. Finally got a hold of someone at the dealer and the car was sold in 2hrs once it hit the dealer at the start of last week.
Car was priced at $57k, would have been a steal for anyone!
Car was priced at $57k, would have been a steal for anyone!
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05-07-2012 | 12:27 PM
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Nope. It was just a 997.2C4, not an "S" like yours. Also, no wood package. Don't tell me you got yours for under $60k! If so then I may have to restart my search for an 2009 C2S/C4S.
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05-07-2012 | 01:25 PM
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Haha nope wasn't referring to mine...but when I was in the market I can across a 09 C4 blue/beige that I eventually found out through a PPI had about $6-7k worth of work/maintenance needed and hadn't been properly serviced. The guy (private party) had agreed to sell for $62 (prior to PPI) and then got desperate and said $50k, and I passed on it.
The car was then traded into a dealer here in NJ who then asked $57/58k for it and it still sat for a month or so before being sold at dealer auction to another Porsche dealer in Colorado who turned around and listed it for $75k
at which point I stopped keeping tabs on it in my daily search routine lol
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05-09-2012 | 10:59 AM
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So I found a candidate I am thinking of approaching, I inquired about this car with the dealer previously but just got the carfax report. Before I start talking further should i be concerned with this carfax? It shows a maintenance history of electrical problems starting when the car was new and moving on to around 25k miles. But then for the next 10k miles there are no records. Advice on if this is a pass or bid? Did the 2007 997C4S have electrical issues?
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05-09-2012 | 12:53 PM
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My concern is electrical issues outside of warranty as those can add up in cost. I keep coming back to this car, this is the first one I inquired about and I threw out a lowball offer and they simply said there is no need to even talk anymore. Now seeing the recent auction prices I am tempted to go back and make a real offer.
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05-09-2012 | 01:32 PM
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People do not buy a 911 to keep it for a couple of months and use it as a "vehicle"
Most people buy a 911 because they are enthusiasts, it is part of a dream/wish.
Based on that, any small pimple, will feel like a major zit. (like a teenage girl going to the prom)
So in my opinion, when in doubt, pass!
Most people buy a 911 because they are enthusiasts, it is part of a dream/wish.
Based on that, any small pimple, will feel like a major zit. (like a teenage girl going to the prom)
So in my opinion, when in doubt, pass!
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05-09-2012 | 02:37 PM
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Personally, I'd pass. Damage history, at least 3 previous owners... all who reported electrical issues, and this thing has been footballed by a few dealers. Plenty of good vehicles out there to choose from... let someone else gambling w/ this one...
