Vorsteiner Rear Bumper major fitment issue that I purchased from Vivid Racings
#76
11-04-2012 | 03:11 PM
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Yeah...I'm surprised to see so many members are just so out of it...Take for example DenverSteve's example of taking his receiver back to Denon...Wow that means instead of taking my car to the Porsche dealer for a warranty issue I should be going back to PCNA everytime...Your definitely not a lawyer that's for sure..
Granted car parts are different than electronics...
Lastly try schooling someone else...you still haven't been able to counter the fact that other contenders to Vorsteiner such as Hamann charge a premium for a reason and the ****ty quality of the premium product......Hands down your a fool for trying to go thru the manufacturer...That's why the 1st thing that Citibank asked me when I filed a claim with them was did I attempt to resolve the issue with the MERCHANT...Not the manufacturer...
Granted car parts are different than electronics...
Lastly try schooling someone else...you still haven't been able to counter the fact that other contenders to Vorsteiner such as Hamann charge a premium for a reason and the ****ty quality of the premium product......Hands down your a fool for trying to go thru the manufacturer...That's why the 1st thing that Citibank asked me when I filed a claim with them was did I attempt to resolve the issue with the MERCHANT...Not the manufacturer...
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11-04-2012 | 03:14 PM
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Seems like you're the one with the reading problem, fella. I never said that. I said if there was a problem, and there were, they always addressed the issue. PERIOD. TRY READING.
Unfortunately, you're mistaken again. You're the one "making a fool of yourself". You're not honest - you installed something that didn't fit by your own admission (see reading is a good thing - try it), you had it painted because you weren't happy with the response you were getting - you were in a hurry to get it in the show with your team - then all of a sudden the lines not matching BS. What a JOKE!
Unfortunately, you're mistaken again. You're the one "making a fool of yourself". You're not honest - you installed something that didn't fit by your own admission (see reading is a good thing - try it), you had it painted because you weren't happy with the response you were getting - you were in a hurry to get it in the show with your team - then all of a sudden the lines not matching BS. What a JOKE!
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11-04-2012 | 03:20 PM
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I have to say you'd be a great (lots of fun) one to cross-examine in a legal matter - story (excuses) is like swiss cheese.
Seems like you're the one with the reading problem, fella. I never said that. I said if there was a problem, and there were, they always addressed the issue. PERIOD. TRY READING.
Unfortunately, you're mistaken again. You're the one "making a fool of yourself". You're not honest - you installed something that didn't fit by your own admission (see reading is a good thing - try it), you had it painted because you weren't happy with the response you were getting - you were in a hurry to get it in the show with your team - then all of a sudden the lines not matching BS. What a JOKE!
Unfortunately, you're mistaken again. You're the one "making a fool of yourself". You're not honest - you installed something that didn't fit by your own admission (see reading is a good thing - try it), you had it painted because you weren't happy with the response you were getting - you were in a hurry to get it in the show with your team - then all of a sudden the lines not matching BS. What a JOKE!
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11-04-2012 | 03:33 PM
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No, I don't have a "problem reading" at all. It's very clear and I'm not buying it. I know Jon (JLeviSW), and I know Vorsteiner.
Clarity is a good thing and you let enough out to see, eh, "read" between the lines: "My team need to attend a show so I had to get it painted / installed to meet the deadline" Begs the question doesn't it - what's the timeline? Seems like someone was in a bit of a hurry to get it installed to meet the deadline for the show!
Turning a "blind eye to it" is your interpretation of things given your being completely irresponsible and not forthright - regrets on being harsh but it's seemingly true.
To know something to the degree you did, and still went through with it leaves no room for sympathy. I can't imagine too many people agreeing with you.
At least with azqureshi he didn't know and his body shop doesn't seem professional enough to test fit something. One could argue he's truly a victim of circumstances, but that's not the case with you fella. I wouldn't give you a dime back based on your admission. I wonder if you disclosed this at the time!?!
I'm absolutely astonished how you can have any notion of being wronged given your admission of knowledge of improper fitment, then having it painted, showing the car, likely got lots of bad comments on it, then after the fact or "buyers remorse" you flame a good guy (Jon), who has a very small business, honest guy, along with Vorsteiner, to pay for your irresponsible acts. UNBELIEVABLE!
Then there this remark from above: "people started commenting on the slightly crooked line". Hmm, let's see - didn't fit, put it on anyway just to show the car, then after the show and putting it on the forums you're all of a sudden getting comments? I don't think so. You already admitted knowledge before the install, but you were in a hurry.
I'd wager Jon (and others) has a different story to tell.
Clarity is a good thing and you let enough out to see, eh, "read" between the lines: "My team need to attend a show so I had to get it painted / installed to meet the deadline" Begs the question doesn't it - what's the timeline? Seems like someone was in a bit of a hurry to get it installed to meet the deadline for the show!
Turning a "blind eye to it" is your interpretation of things given your being completely irresponsible and not forthright - regrets on being harsh but it's seemingly true.
To know something to the degree you did, and still went through with it leaves no room for sympathy. I can't imagine too many people agreeing with you.
At least with azqureshi he didn't know and his body shop doesn't seem professional enough to test fit something. One could argue he's truly a victim of circumstances, but that's not the case with you fella. I wouldn't give you a dime back based on your admission. I wonder if you disclosed this at the time!?!
I'm absolutely astonished how you can have any notion of being wronged given your admission of knowledge of improper fitment, then having it painted, showing the car, likely got lots of bad comments on it, then after the fact or "buyers remorse" you flame a good guy (Jon), who has a very small business, honest guy, along with Vorsteiner, to pay for your irresponsible acts. UNBELIEVABLE!
Then there this remark from above: "people started commenting on the slightly crooked line". Hmm, let's see - didn't fit, put it on anyway just to show the car, then after the show and putting it on the forums you're all of a sudden getting comments? I don't think so. You already admitted knowledge before the install, but you were in a hurry.
I'd wager Jon (and others) has a different story to tell.
After the pictures surfaced, I never accepted Vorsteiner or JLeviSW's to make amend and eventually sold the trunk and went back to a simple M3 rear spoiler. I had been around the block for a long time so I know damn well that no aftermarket part would fit well right out of the box. So, it is NOT acceptable for the vendors to advertise Vorsteiner's products will "fit right out of the box".
The point is, neither the vendor nor the manufacturer should make statements like "the product will fit perfectly right out of the box". With a full CF part, there is no wiggle room for error if you plan to leave it unpainted. That's when Vorsteiner failed to deliver on their "Perfection, Redefined" slogan.
You can keep on defending Vorsteiner and the vendors. Please go ahead and continue to make a fool out of yourself.
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11-04-2012 | 03:35 PM
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Seems like you're the one with the reading problem, fella. I never said that. I said if there was a problem, and there were, they always addressed the issue. PERIOD. TRY READING.
Unfortunately, you're mistaken again. You're the one "making a fool of yourself". You're not honest - you installed something that didn't fit by your own admission (see reading is a good thing - try it), you had it painted because you weren't happy with the response you were getting - you were in a hurry to get it in the show with your team - then all of a sudden the lines not matching BS. What a JOKE!
Unfortunately, you're mistaken again. You're the one "making a fool of yourself". You're not honest - you installed something that didn't fit by your own admission (see reading is a good thing - try it), you had it painted because you weren't happy with the response you were getting - you were in a hurry to get it in the show with your team - then all of a sudden the lines not matching BS. What a JOKE!
I know very well their time line to make another trunk. When I don't get a response in 72 hours. I made the decision to proceed. So, who's lying about what?
Just accept the fact that you are a fan boy and reading comprehension is not your strong point.
By the way, I am a critical care physician and not an attorney involved in legal matters......
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11-04-2012 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by gonz996
BEST IN SHOW - THANK YOU VORSTEINER
Vorsteiner/Brembo, Vorsteiner wheels, Vorsteiner body, Vorsteiner interior, Vorsteiner engine bay - all great stuff!
It's interesting to me that all the manufacturers get bashed on the internet at some point, but it seems like only threads involving Vorsteiner will attract fan boys and vendors like cow dung attracting flies.
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11-04-2012 | 04:03 PM
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good reading
For a good laugh....google...Vorsteiner fitment issues....
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11-04-2012 | 04:22 PM
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Hey fella, you're the only fool. To do what you did is utterly retarded. Give it a rest.
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11-04-2012 | 04:53 PM
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Thank you for validating my triple major, a graduate degree, a medical degree, plus a residency and a fellowship. Guess who's retarded here?
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11-04-2012 | 05:05 PM
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Never said or implied I was a "fan boy", just never had issues and when I did, they were resolved to my satisfaction. Read. I sure as **** never installed something knowing it didn't fit and then take it to a show!
With regard to your "triple major", oh WOW, I suppose you need to validate yourself - too funny. Your words little fella of what you did, as referenced above, are just that - your words - and that is validation enough.
I don't feel a need to tout my credentials - you're pretty good for a laugh, but then I'm sure you're used to it based on what you installed on your car and took it to a show. PROOF POSITIVE
With regard to your "triple major", oh WOW, I suppose you need to validate yourself - too funny. Your words little fella of what you did, as referenced above, are just that - your words - and that is validation enough.
I don't feel a need to tout my credentials - you're pretty good for a laugh, but then I'm sure you're used to it based on what you installed on your car and took it to a show. PROOF POSITIVE
#86
11-04-2012 | 05:14 PM
it seems 2 people are posting about the bumper, i dont understand ????
anyways FINISH, YOU BOUGHT IT, YOU MODIFIED IT AND PAINTED IT, NOW LIVE WITH IT!!!
Who the hell buys a bumper then realizes it doesn't fit right then PAINTS IT, INSTALLS IT then months later comes to complain! the only person you should be mad at is YOURSELF!
Then you threaten the vendor that you will register to every forum and complain...when people finally realize you painted and used a bumper that was either NOT TEST FITTED or was TEST FITTED & you knew the problem but still proceeded to modify, the members will just respond as we are!
ps: if i was the vendor & you threatened to "slander" me i'd tell you to go (you know what) yourself.
VIVID: 1 ..... FORUM MEMBER: 0
anyways FINISH, YOU BOUGHT IT, YOU MODIFIED IT AND PAINTED IT, NOW LIVE WITH IT!!!
Who the hell buys a bumper then realizes it doesn't fit right then PAINTS IT, INSTALLS IT then months later comes to complain! the only person you should be mad at is YOURSELF!
Then you threaten the vendor that you will register to every forum and complain...when people finally realize you painted and used a bumper that was either NOT TEST FITTED or was TEST FITTED & you knew the problem but still proceeded to modify, the members will just respond as we are!
ps: if i was the vendor & you threatened to "slander" me i'd tell you to go (you know what) yourself.
VIVID: 1 ..... FORUM MEMBER: 0
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11-04-2012 | 05:23 PM
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triple major, a graduate degree, a medical degree, plus a residency and a fellowship. Guess who's retarded here?
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11-04-2012 | 05:23 PM
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And I won the show too
, but still doesn't change the fact that they ignored my request for help, and they advertised that as a "PERFECT" fitment with NO additional work required. It's a 2-sided CF trunk that NEEDS to fit PERFECTLY right out of the box, yet it doesn't fit. Is it really that hard to understand the false advertising here and how they dropped the ball?How convenient that you overlook the part that I NEVER accepted their proposal to replace the trunk after the pictures were posted. I made the decision to go ahead with the paint, and I lived with the consequence. Plain and simple. What part can you not understand? What I don't like is the false advertising that both Vorsteiner and the vendors are making. You just can't understand that, can you? Maybe you have drunk a little too much Vorsteiner-branded Kool-aid?
There are 3 possibilities:
1. you have a learning disability with reading comprehension
2. you are truly retarded
3. you are a paid Vorsteiner fan boy
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11-04-2012 | 05:42 PM
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But to answer your question: Your belly aching, not to mention a lack of common sense.
With regarding to number 3, I haven't purchased from Vorsteiner since my M3 and in fact sold all the parts - several to spare (boots, bumpers, diffusers, V-CSL console, Vorsteiner Brembo BBK, Vorsteiner wheels).
As far as buying more, although I had no problems with their products and when I did they resolved it, any body mods I do moving forward are OEM. So you can STUFF your "fan boy" comments because I'm not. I do call it like I see it and if I had a beef with them I'd say so.
On the other hand, I do think you're not very bright - ALL YOUR DEGREES AND ALL. NOT INSECURE ARE YOU!?! PFFFFT. Too funny.
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11-04-2012 | 05:50 PM
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You're a piece of work (or something else), but I think you're delusional given your posts regarding fitment prior to paint, getting ready for the show, post-show forum posts! In my opinion little fella, you have no credibility; moreover, you're seemingly very insecure having to throw out your education.
But to answer your question: Your belly aching, not to mention a lack of common sense.
But to answer your question: Your belly aching, not to mention a lack of common sense.
I took a chance with a less than perfect piece, so what? But it doesn't negate the fact that Vorsteiner makes less than perfect pieces and use its vendors to blow their trumpets to increase sales to the inexperienced, and unsuspecting crowd.
I think you're a good fit for "2" above.
With regarding to number 3, I haven't purchased from Vorsteiner since my M3 and in fact sold all the parts - several to spare (boots, bumpers, diffusers, V-CSL console, Vorsteiner Brembo BBK, Vorsteiner wheels.
As far as buying more, although I had no problems with their products and when I did they resolved it, any body mods I do moving forward are OEM. So you can STUFF your "fan boy" comments because I'm not. I do call it like I see it and if I had a beef with them I'd say so.
On the other hand, I do think you're not very bright - ALL YOUR DEGREES AND ALL. PFFFFT. Too funny.
However, you still haven't explained what makes it ok for Vorsteiner to lie about their manufacturing process, their less than desirable fitment, and their lack of response until negative publicity starts to appear.
You can keep piling more insults, personal attacks, and things alike, but don't dodge answering that one single question that I posed.
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