Torn - Swap Push Button Steering Wheel for Paddled Wheel?
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Torn - Swap Push Button Steering Wheel for Paddled Wheel?
Driving a 2010 911 S, Right after I bought it 6 months ago, I paid $800 for a Porsche steering wheel with paddles to swap it out. For one reason or another I never got around to doing the install of the new wheel. Now I'm kinda liking cruising down 95 up and downshifting with one hand.
On the other hand, there is something really nice about flapping the paddles.. I know it's all personal, but wondering about others thoughts on the matter.. What would you do?
On the other hand, there is something really nice about flapping the paddles.. I know it's all personal, but wondering about others thoughts on the matter.. What would you do?
#2
I modded my car with wheels spacers I already owned within 24 hours of owning it ....
The paddle wheel followed as soon as it was delivered about a week later.
I consider it an essential mod on pdk cars .....
The paddle wheel followed as soon as it was delivered about a week later.
I consider it an essential mod on pdk cars .....
#3
That's what I'm thinking..
#5
PAG is different and sets trends. Sometimes they succumb to me-too 'trends' and follows them, thus the paddle option.
For me (and others) the dual redundant buttons have many advantages among which:
1 - shift with either button in a consistent manner
2 - shift without confusion mid-turn
3 - ergonomic/uncluttered design. Paddles and intermingle with other steering wheel stalks.
Note: to those who object to (2) above telling me that shifting mid-corner is bad practice... I reply: it would to be bad practice with other transmissions. PDK excels at shifting mid-corner under trail-braking seamlessly. In fact, in D mode, modern dual clutch transmissions do that routinely. No problem to downshift mid-corner with redundant buttons, but confusing with reverse-positioned paddles.
For me (and others) the dual redundant buttons have many advantages among which:
1 - shift with either button in a consistent manner
2 - shift without confusion mid-turn
3 - ergonomic/uncluttered design. Paddles and intermingle with other steering wheel stalks.
Note: to those who object to (2) above telling me that shifting mid-corner is bad practice... I reply: it would to be bad practice with other transmissions. PDK excels at shifting mid-corner under trail-braking seamlessly. In fact, in D mode, modern dual clutch transmissions do that routinely. No problem to downshift mid-corner with redundant buttons, but confusing with reverse-positioned paddles.
#6
I like the paddle wheel; had it installed about 3 months after getting my CPO C4S; used a holiday coupon to get a discount. Paddles are best in sport mode; less reactive in normal mode compared to floor shifter. When I tracked my C4S sport plus mode was wonderful (left it in auto).
#7
Some would say pdk and paddles where designed to go hand-in-hand and the stupid buttons are only there to cater for existing tiptronic users and one armed people
Talking of mid-turn shifts ....
that was a big problem for me when my car had the buttons ......
Talking of mid-turn shifts ....
that was a big problem for me when my car had the buttons ......
PAG is different and sets trends. Sometimes they succumb to me-too 'trends' and follows them, thus the paddle option.
For me (and others) the dual redundant buttons have many advantages among which:
1 - shift with either button in a consistent manner
2 - shift without confusion mid-turn
3 - ergonomic/uncluttered design. Paddles and intermingle with other steering wheel stalks.
Note: to those who object to (2) above telling me that shifting mid-corner is bad practice... I reply: it would to be bad practice with other transmissions. PDK excels at shifting mid-corner under trail-braking seamlessly. In fact, in D mode, modern dual clutch transmissions do that routinely. No problem to downshift mid-corner with redundant buttons, but confusing with reverse-positioned paddles.
For me (and others) the dual redundant buttons have many advantages among which:
1 - shift with either button in a consistent manner
2 - shift without confusion mid-turn
3 - ergonomic/uncluttered design. Paddles and intermingle with other steering wheel stalks.
Note: to those who object to (2) above telling me that shifting mid-corner is bad practice... I reply: it would to be bad practice with other transmissions. PDK excels at shifting mid-corner under trail-braking seamlessly. In fact, in D mode, modern dual clutch transmissions do that routinely. No problem to downshift mid-corner with redundant buttons, but confusing with reverse-positioned paddles.
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#8
Coming from e-gear (Lamborghini) and SMG (BMW), I had my paddle wheel installed within a week of vehicle purchase. It is enjoyable to use and provides the engagement with the vehicle I need.
Install of the wheel is very inexpensive so if you already own the wheel, you could install it, but switch back to the original wheel if it isn't what you were expecting.
Dave
Install of the wheel is very inexpensive so if you already own the wheel, you could install it, but switch back to the original wheel if it isn't what you were expecting.
Dave
#9
I've done it both ways on two cars. Currently have the paddles on my GTS. The only time I don't like it is if I am trying to shift coming out of a corner. It can be a bit of an issue trying to get my fingers on the paddle. I didn't have that issue with the buttons.
I never really thought I'd miss the multi function wheel's buttons. However, as soon as I took it off I found that I did miss the ability to answer a call with the button on the wheel. Really not a big deal.
If you have the wheel put it on and try it. It's easy to go back.
I never really thought I'd miss the multi function wheel's buttons. However, as soon as I took it off I found that I did miss the ability to answer a call with the button on the wheel. Really not a big deal.
If you have the wheel put it on and try it. It's easy to go back.
#10
And neither I or those I know who see the wisdom/benefits of the PDK redundant buttons ever driven/owned tiptronic cars or are one-armed people.
I suppose you have not learned from Sir Stirling Moss about light touch steering wheel holding... Good driving is all about light touch, finesse and smoothness. Again some think different.
Last edited by adias; 11-05-2012 at 02:54 PM.
#13
Another option is going with the TechArt paddle conversion if you have a multifunction wheel with heat. Sharkwerks sells it and it doesn't look too bad to install. The front buttons are still on the wheel after the conversion but they are defeated. The paddles are black.
I may sell my paddle wheel and go this route.
I may sell my paddle wheel and go this route.
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