Porsche GT3 Recall
#1
Porsche GT3 Recall
Guess I've lived a full life. Porsche just announced a recall. Recall was for the rear wheel hubs on GT3's built between May 2009 and Feb 2011. Porsche stated they are prone to fail. Prone too fail, if they issued recalls for everything that's prone to fail on a 996/997 that'd be up to their necks in recalls. Of course we're talking limited production car in the GT3 but still a recall. Amazing. What's next a Porsche stationwagon ??
Last edited by Dadio; 12-14-2012 at 09:54 AM.
#7
Guess I've lived a full life. Porsche just announced a recall. Recall was for the rear wheel hubs on GT3's bulit between May 2009 and Feb 2011. Porsche stated they are prone to fail. Prone too fail, if they issued recalls for everything that's prone to fail on a 996/997 that'd be up to their necks in recalls. Of course we're talking limited production car in the GT3 but still a recall. Amazing. What's next a Porsche stationwagon ??
Last edited by Steve997S; 12-13-2012 at 09:20 PM.
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#8
My first Ducati had a recall for the single-sided rear wheel spindle (similar concept). Some spindles showed microscopic cracks, and therefore could fail leaving the rider sliding for dear life across tarmac and who knows what else. Mine checked out good and I was happy Ducati cared enough to consider my safety over profit. As a responsible manufacturer, Porsche chose the correct action. I completely disagree with your perspective and I'm perplexed as to why you chose this angle rather than just report the matter responsibly.
I believe he suggested the previous 911's had a laundry list of common issues; there were no recalls (that he was involved in), and that it was a rare occurrence, if not unheard of.
Are you suggesting that if manufacturing issues are not an immediate threat to driver safety, that recalls aren't warranted?
Because on one hand - I interpret you saying that Porsche acted responsibly by identifying a possible failure of a component. And on the other, you qualified that action basing it on the importance of safety, and that prior well-known failures that were NOT related to driver safety did not warrant a recall, and was not irresponsible of Porsche.
#10
I'm perplexed as to why you believe this was irresponsible.
I believe he suggested the previous 911's had a laundry list of common issues; there were no recalls (that he was involved in), and that it was a rare occurrence, if not unheard of.
Are you suggesting that if manufacturing issues are not an immediate threat to driver safety, that recalls aren't warranted?
Because on one hand - I interpret you saying that Porsche acted responsibly by identifying a possible failure of a component. And on the other, you qualified that action basing it on the importance of safety, and that prior well-known failures that were NOT related to driver safety did not warrant a recall, and was not irresponsible of Porsche.
I believe he suggested the previous 911's had a laundry list of common issues; there were no recalls (that he was involved in), and that it was a rare occurrence, if not unheard of.
Are you suggesting that if manufacturing issues are not an immediate threat to driver safety, that recalls aren't warranted?
Because on one hand - I interpret you saying that Porsche acted responsibly by identifying a possible failure of a component. And on the other, you qualified that action basing it on the importance of safety, and that prior well-known failures that were NOT related to driver safety did not warrant a recall, and was not irresponsible of Porsche.
#11
Don't interpret, just take it at face value. Porsche acted on a safety issue. Great. Be happy about it. My response had nothing to do with any previous issue, only which Porsche would have the evidence and empirical data to decide the proper courses of action. Public opinion is always for the manufacturer to do more, regardless whether warranted or realistic. That opinion is typically based on a scant understanding of the true scope of the issue. Recalls aren't the only option to correct issues, but are the best solution when safety is a key element.
#12
My first Ducati had a recall for the single-sided rear wheel spindle (similar concept). Some spindles showed microscopic cracks, and therefore could fail leaving the rider sliding for dear life across tarmac and who knows what else. Mine checked out good and I was happy Ducati cared enough to consider my safety over profit. As a responsible manufacturer, Porsche chose the correct action. I completely disagree with your perspective and I'm perplexed as to why you chose this angle rather than just report the matter responsibly?
As for your disagreeing with me, that's one of the many freedoms we enjoy in America and on sites like this one and I applaud you're taking full advantage of it as I did when a submitted the post.
Last edited by Dadio; 12-14-2012 at 09:52 AM.
#13
Yes, that is exactly right. RECALLS are a very specifically defined thing and relate to a safety issue with a vehicle that could cause an accident or harm to the driver/passengers.
Something that breaks that doesn't pose a risk is not a recall item.
Its actually called a 'safety recall'.
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/pr...llproblems.cfm
#14
If anyone cares, THIS is how it looks when it fails at 100+ mph on the track. Car went airborne and then landed and then stayed on three wheels (after it jumped the curb). Driver and passenger were shaken but not stirred.
Please note the missing brake rotor (amongst other things).
No, this wasn't my car. It is a professionally maintained GT3 RS
Wheels were always torqued exactly to Porsche's instructions
This was a dedicated track car with a roll cage. Both driver and passenger (both experienced club racers) wore three layer fire suits and HANS devices and were strapped into race seats with 6 pt harnesses.
Imagine this happens during a "spirited" drive...
God am I happy that I have "old school" 5 lug wheels
Please note the missing brake rotor (amongst other things).
No, this wasn't my car. It is a professionally maintained GT3 RS
Wheels were always torqued exactly to Porsche's instructions
This was a dedicated track car with a roll cage. Both driver and passenger (both experienced club racers) wore three layer fire suits and HANS devices and were strapped into race seats with 6 pt harnesses.
Imagine this happens during a "spirited" drive...
God am I happy that I have "old school" 5 lug wheels
Last edited by Hatzenbach; 12-15-2012 at 10:37 AM.
#15
Mechanical items designed by humans, manufactured by humans, and used by humans are subject to bad design, bad manufacturing processes, and bad use. Be glad there are procedures in place to identify, announce, and fix issues that are directly related to safety.