Pre purchase questions
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12-30-2012 | 03:35 PM
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Pre purchase questions
Hey all, I will be purchasing my first Porsche soon and have it narrowed down to a 997.
What is the difference between a C2 and C2S?
What is the diff between 997.1 vs 997.2
Definitely want 2wd, six speed. The car will get lowered, and rims. And the car will be seeing a little track time.
Thanx for your help, Mike
What is the difference between a C2 and C2S?
What is the diff between 997.1 vs 997.2
Definitely want 2wd, six speed. The car will get lowered, and rims. And the car will be seeing a little track time.
Thanx for your help, Mike
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12-30-2012 | 04:01 PM
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997.2 = 2009 +
997.1 = 2008 and below
997.2 has DFI engine, better fuel mileage and maybe a few HP. Some bugs also removed from the 997.1. Lots to search and read here. Too much to list.
S= Sport, larger brakes(painted caliper), a few more HP , I believe a little wider in the rear and tires. That s the short answer.
You should see a noticeable difference between the price of an "S" (more stuff=more money).
auto trans in 997.2 is the new PDK, 997.1 has an older style. Pdk is the latest and probably the best. I didn t care for the 997.1 auto trans at all.
6 speeds are getting harder to find in my experience.
If cash is not an issue go for the newest you can get ... Enjoy your search.
997.1 = 2008 and below
997.2 has DFI engine, better fuel mileage and maybe a few HP. Some bugs also removed from the 997.1. Lots to search and read here. Too much to list.
S= Sport, larger brakes(painted caliper), a few more HP , I believe a little wider in the rear and tires. That s the short answer.
You should see a noticeable difference between the price of an "S" (more stuff=more money).
auto trans in 997.2 is the new PDK, 997.1 has an older style. Pdk is the latest and probably the best. I didn t care for the 997.1 auto trans at all.
6 speeds are getting harder to find in my experience.
If cash is not an issue go for the newest you can get ... Enjoy your search.
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997.2 = 2009 +
997.1 = 2008 and below
997.2 has DFI engine, better fuel mileage and maybe a few HP. Some bugs also removed from the 997.1. Lots to search and read here. Too much to list.
S= Sport, larger brakes(painted caliper), a few more HP , I believe a little wider in the rear and tires. That s the short answer.
You should see a noticeable difference between the price of an "S" (more stuff=more money).
auto trans in 997.2 is the new PDK, 997.1 has an older style. Pdk is the latest and probably the best. I didn t care for the 997.1 auto trans at all.
6 speeds are getting harder to find in my experience.
If cash is not an issue go for the newest you can get ... Enjoy your search.
997.1 = 2008 and below
997.2 has DFI engine, better fuel mileage and maybe a few HP. Some bugs also removed from the 997.1. Lots to search and read here. Too much to list.
S= Sport, larger brakes(painted caliper), a few more HP , I believe a little wider in the rear and tires. That s the short answer.
You should see a noticeable difference between the price of an "S" (more stuff=more money).
auto trans in 997.2 is the new PDK, 997.1 has an older style. Pdk is the latest and probably the best. I didn t care for the 997.1 auto trans at all.
6 speeds are getting harder to find in my experience.
If cash is not an issue go for the newest you can get ... Enjoy your search.
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That's the kinda info I need.
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12-30-2012 | 07:06 PM
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997.2 = 2009 +
997.1 = 2008 and below
997.2 has DFI engine, better fuel mileage and maybe a few HP. Some bugs also removed from the 997.1. Lots to search and read here. Too much to list.
S= Sport, larger brakes(painted caliper), a few more HP , I believe a little wider in the rear and tires. That s the short answer.
You should see a noticeable difference between the price of an "S" (more stuff=more money).
auto trans in 997.2 is the new PDK, 997.1 has an older style. Pdk is the latest and probably the best. I didn t care for the 997.1 auto trans at all.
6 speeds are getting harder to find in my experience.
If cash is not an issue go for the newest you can get ... Enjoy your search.
997.1 = 2008 and below
997.2 has DFI engine, better fuel mileage and maybe a few HP. Some bugs also removed from the 997.1. Lots to search and read here. Too much to list.
S= Sport, larger brakes(painted caliper), a few more HP , I believe a little wider in the rear and tires. That s the short answer.
You should see a noticeable difference between the price of an "S" (more stuff=more money).
auto trans in 997.2 is the new PDK, 997.1 has an older style. Pdk is the latest and probably the best. I didn t care for the 997.1 auto trans at all.
6 speeds are getting harder to find in my experience.
If cash is not an issue go for the newest you can get ... Enjoy your search.
How much more ponies the newer they get?
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12-30-2012 | 08:53 PM
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I have the 997.1 S and it has 355 HP. The 997.2 S has 385 but the DFI engine has a little more torque down low and also removed the problematic IMS bearing.
The 992 has more sophisticated PASM, updated electronics, led lights and the DFI engine. Also, PDk trans if you are into that.
The 992 has more sophisticated PASM, updated electronics, led lights and the DFI engine. Also, PDk trans if you are into that.
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12-30-2012 | 08:55 PM
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S differences not mentioned so far:
1 inch larger wheel stock (18 vs 19)
1 inch wider rear wheel stock (10 vs 11)
PASM (adjustable suspension stock)
Do note all of those things could have been optioned on a non-s.
997.1 vs .2 HP/TQ differences:
Base: 321hp/273tq vs 340hp/288tq
S: 355hp/295tq vs 380hp/310tq
1 inch larger wheel stock (18 vs 19)
1 inch wider rear wheel stock (10 vs 11)
PASM (adjustable suspension stock)
Do note all of those things could have been optioned on a non-s.
997.1 vs .2 HP/TQ differences:
Base: 321hp/273tq vs 340hp/288tq
S: 355hp/295tq vs 380hp/310tq
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12-30-2012 | 09:34 PM
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There have been a few 997.1 that had a catastrophic engine failure due to the IMS. The problem appears to be only early year 2005, however one poster in this thread, dadeo, on post number 110 said his failure occurred on a '07 S. it was his only single post, so may not be true. The 997.2 model no longer has an IMS bearing.
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12-30-2012 | 10:09 PM
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Actually it's 355 vs. 385. But the DFI makes a huge difference in throttle response. My .2 997S is hands down quicker than the .1 997S it replaced.
The motor in the .2 is also lower in the frame, which per Porsche makes for better balance. I can say I can also tell the front end is more planted in my .2, and generally is a better performing car.
Somebody mentioned PASM as adjustable suspension. It is electrically charged at varying degrees, and each corner is controlled separately based on what the system senses while driving. In sport mode, the system stiffens for less travel and exhibits less body roll. Not sure if Porsche changed PASM between .1 and .2 but I can drive my .2 with PASM in sport mode without shattering my teeth. Something I couldn't do in my .1
PASM also lowers the car 10mm
The motor in the .2 is also lower in the frame, which per Porsche makes for better balance. I can say I can also tell the front end is more planted in my .2, and generally is a better performing car.
Somebody mentioned PASM as adjustable suspension. It is electrically charged at varying degrees, and each corner is controlled separately based on what the system senses while driving. In sport mode, the system stiffens for less travel and exhibits less body roll. Not sure if Porsche changed PASM between .1 and .2 but I can drive my .2 with PASM in sport mode without shattering my teeth. Something I couldn't do in my .1
PASM also lowers the car 10mm
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12-30-2012 | 10:43 PM
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Actually it's 355 vs. 385. But the DFI makes a huge difference in throttle response. My .2 997S is hands down quicker than the .1 997S it replaced.
The motor in the .2 is also lower in the frame, which per Porsche makes for better balance. I can say I can also tell the front end is more planted in my .2, and generally is a better performing car.
Somebody mentioned PASM as adjustable suspension. It is electrically charged at varying degrees, and each corner is controlled separately based on what the system senses while driving. In sport mode, the system stiffens for less travel and exhibits less body roll. Not sure if Porsche changed PASM between .1 and .2 but I can drive my .2 with PASM in sport mode without shattering my teeth. Something I couldn't do in my .1
PASM also lowers the car 10mm
The motor in the .2 is also lower in the frame, which per Porsche makes for better balance. I can say I can also tell the front end is more planted in my .2, and generally is a better performing car.
Somebody mentioned PASM as adjustable suspension. It is electrically charged at varying degrees, and each corner is controlled separately based on what the system senses while driving. In sport mode, the system stiffens for less travel and exhibits less body roll. Not sure if Porsche changed PASM between .1 and .2 but I can drive my .2 with PASM in sport mode without shattering my teeth. Something I couldn't do in my .1
PASM also lowers the car 10mm
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12-30-2012 | 11:06 PM
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Sorry, didn't mean to imply the height dropped when you pushed the button.
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