Wrecked My Porsche.. :(
#31
Thank You! I couldn't agree more, and was hoping that I would receive feedback like yours. I just put a call in to insurance company making sure that I was notified and present during adjusters inspection. I would NEVER feel secure driving this car after the hit it took if they demand repair.
Glad you are okay, and that you can remember your wife and baby being there!
The car is a total loss, especially if any of the bags went off. As the insured, you have a right to expect any car that is repaired to be in "like" condition to prior accident. Under this premise, no car that is hit can ever truly be repaired, and especially one that took a hit like yours.
Before people jump in and start defending quality repair shops and cars that have a "story", let me say that I've owned a few "story" cars and have one salvage title in the garage.
My point is that of you want a car to be totaled, you can achieve it if you are active in the process with the adjuster. On cars like these anything approaching 30% of value is an easy total. Be your own advocate, an if you get an answer you don't like - work until you get one that you do.
The car is a total loss, especially if any of the bags went off. As the insured, you have a right to expect any car that is repaired to be in "like" condition to prior accident. Under this premise, no car that is hit can ever truly be repaired, and especially one that took a hit like yours.
Before people jump in and start defending quality repair shops and cars that have a "story", let me say that I've owned a few "story" cars and have one salvage title in the garage.
My point is that of you want a car to be totaled, you can achieve it if you are active in the process with the adjuster. On cars like these anything approaching 30% of value is an easy total. Be your own advocate, an if you get an answer you don't like - work until you get one that you do.
#32
wow, you are one very lucky man. Forget the repairs, get out there and hit the casino!!
Agree with MCGT3, and from experience, get to know body shop, make your concerns clear. Looks like an easy total from the pics, musta been hella scary experience.
Agree with MCGT3, and from experience, get to know body shop, make your concerns clear. Looks like an easy total from the pics, musta been hella scary experience.
#33
Yes, these cars, with the rear camber, the outside of the tire may look like new and the insides are pretty bald... rain and transition from asphalt to concrete (those little bridges) are a wake up call for worn tires...
#34
Glad your OK, that is the most important part.
Funny I avoid 95 as much as I can and I am in New England.
To me there is no doubt that is a total loss based on that picture.
#37
Hi All... Sad to say but my 2010 911 S was smashed by an 18 wheeler on I95. It was raining, and my tail went out, then I did a 180 directly under an 18 wheeler which literally stepped on my car. The entire front of the car looks like it has been squashed. I survived with literally not a scratch on me. Airbags deployed, etc.. Gotta hand it to Porsche on that one.
My concern at this point is where to bring it. I really need this car to be totaled, because an $80,000 car with this kind of damage that is repaired will plummet in value. I live in Boca Raton, FL. I would hate for a body shop to recommend with the adjuster that it can be fixed just to get the job/money. Any thoughts strategically to avoid this? I'm thankful I'm ok, it's surprising that I am, and at this point I'm just trying to do damage control for the car. But this issue is pressing and I must figure it out.
Thanks everyone..
My concern at this point is where to bring it. I really need this car to be totaled, because an $80,000 car with this kind of damage that is repaired will plummet in value. I live in Boca Raton, FL. I would hate for a body shop to recommend with the adjuster that it can be fixed just to get the job/money. Any thoughts strategically to avoid this? I'm thankful I'm ok, it's surprising that I am, and at this point I'm just trying to do damage control for the car. But this issue is pressing and I must figure it out.
Thanks everyone..
Best advice I can offer is to get a copy of the documentation Porsche has put together that details what is involved in ensuring a damaged Porsche is repaired to the level Porsche feels is appropriate.
For this I believe Porsche as at the PCNA web site a link -- you may have to search for it -- that leads you to the Porsche Approved Collision Center requirements. It may also locate for your Porsche Approved Collision Centers in your area.
I won't list/detail what I know (learned the hard way...) about this but what it does is it makes the car much more expensive to fix *right*.
This works to 1) either getting the insurance company to total the car; or 2) giving a head start so you can see the repairs are done right.
Right off the bat I'd say the is totaled. About the only way I see open to fix that is to remove the front of the car and fix a new front end. While this can have the car looking as it did before it is a very tricky/expensive repair and not many shops I daresay would get it right. The results might suffice for a lesser car but for a car with the performance capabilities of your's.. No way.
And Porsche is your friend in this regard becuase it is very clear on what it believes is necessary to affect the proper repair of its cars.
Do not rush this process. Gather up the info you need to push for a proper fix which should have the repair bill so high a total is the only option.
While this is probably premature, just a heads up: Avoid the desire that some have to want to buy back the car with a salvage title and "fix" the car for pennies on the dollar. This car is destined to spend the rest of its days being a feasting site for Porsche parts vultures. C'est la vie.
#42
State Farm declared my '07 997 S a total following an accident a couple years ago. A car in front of me had spun out and was sideways across 2 lanes - I tried to swerve but clipped it badly with my left front fender.
Here's what I learned from that about the claims process: I chose a very high end shop in West Los Angeles that agreed they would not fix it unless they could make it perfect, as new. They initially thought it might be repairable, but could not determine until they removed a lot. It proceeded in stages. They would identify a long list of things that needed to be replaced, the adjuster would come out and look and agree, at which point they could remove those things and identify another layer of things that needed to be fixed or replaced, the adjuster would come out, approve that, and so forth -- I think 4 times in all, and each time they sent me a copy of the estimate, which kept rising by multiples of $10k. Six weeks in, the adjuster called and said the shop wouldn't repair it because it had identified some subtle frame damage. State Farm paid me replacement cost.
Here's what I learned from that about the claims process: I chose a very high end shop in West Los Angeles that agreed they would not fix it unless they could make it perfect, as new. They initially thought it might be repairable, but could not determine until they removed a lot. It proceeded in stages. They would identify a long list of things that needed to be replaced, the adjuster would come out and look and agree, at which point they could remove those things and identify another layer of things that needed to be fixed or replaced, the adjuster would come out, approve that, and so forth -- I think 4 times in all, and each time they sent me a copy of the estimate, which kept rising by multiples of $10k. Six weeks in, the adjuster called and said the shop wouldn't repair it because it had identified some subtle frame damage. State Farm paid me replacement cost.
#43
Wow!!! Glad you are ok. That must have been a scary event. Not sure about FL insurance laws but many states allow you to specify where you will have it assessed and/or repaired. If that is your case, you might take a look at the link here regarding Porsche Approved Collison Centers. They may be able to assist in informing your insurance company about the damage and rebuild ability and costs. Having that info could help in obtaining a total assessment.
http://www.porschecollisioncenter.com/
Again, glad you are unhurt. Sorry for your car loss.
http://www.porschecollisioncenter.com/
Again, glad you are unhurt. Sorry for your car loss.
#44
Jeff,
I'm going to give you another POV on this as I had a similar accident almost 14 months ago (some jackass rear ended me).
Except I didn't want it totaled if it didn't have to be. I let the the body shop people and the Insurance Company sort it out for me. I have a 2010 C4S cab that I ordered PTS with a TB paint. I wanted to keep that car if possible and the first thing I did was find a fabulous body shop to fix it and they told me they could as good if not better than new.
The Body Shop I chose that is full of artists and magicians and above all wonderful, decent people is MAC Auto Body in NY (Glen Cove, LI). I’m forever indebted to Joe and John for helping me keep my car. My Porsche technician, who told me to dump it when he saw it originally, said to me he could not believe they could restore a car to that condition and that if I wanted to keep it he saw no reason why I shouldn’t.
Now will it be worth what one would be if it wasn’t in an accident….obviously not but that didn’t matter to me since I was keeping it and if I do sell it down the road I have had it serviced by Porsche it’s entire life and if that time comes 5-7 years from now and I have no issues with the car I’d argue the DV is not going to be as much as many think it would but all that is secondary. But be that as it may....for me it didn’t matter.
The only reason I’m telling you this is that it’s been my experience and if they don’t total it it’s not the end of the world….it just depends on who will fix it!
Good Luck to you….thank God you weren’t hurt or worse and Porsches are built like brick shi*houses so you are/will be O.K. my friend!!
All the Best,
Tom
I'm going to give you another POV on this as I had a similar accident almost 14 months ago (some jackass rear ended me).
Except I didn't want it totaled if it didn't have to be. I let the the body shop people and the Insurance Company sort it out for me. I have a 2010 C4S cab that I ordered PTS with a TB paint. I wanted to keep that car if possible and the first thing I did was find a fabulous body shop to fix it and they told me they could as good if not better than new.
The Body Shop I chose that is full of artists and magicians and above all wonderful, decent people is MAC Auto Body in NY (Glen Cove, LI). I’m forever indebted to Joe and John for helping me keep my car. My Porsche technician, who told me to dump it when he saw it originally, said to me he could not believe they could restore a car to that condition and that if I wanted to keep it he saw no reason why I shouldn’t.
Now will it be worth what one would be if it wasn’t in an accident….obviously not but that didn’t matter to me since I was keeping it and if I do sell it down the road I have had it serviced by Porsche it’s entire life and if that time comes 5-7 years from now and I have no issues with the car I’d argue the DV is not going to be as much as many think it would but all that is secondary. But be that as it may....for me it didn’t matter.
The only reason I’m telling you this is that it’s been my experience and if they don’t total it it’s not the end of the world….it just depends on who will fix it!
Good Luck to you….thank God you weren’t hurt or worse and Porsches are built like brick shi*houses so you are/will be O.K. my friend!!
All the Best,
Tom
#45
Glad you are alright after that accident it sounds horrific to have a semi come right at you and smash your front end. Likely to be a total, but to be honest if I came out of that accident with my health intact and a 15k loss on the value of the car after I would be counting my blessings.