Tuning a 997 to maximize mods - what does everyone typically do?
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02-14-2013 | 11:04 AM
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i appreciate the insight, berk. if you guys were closer, i would come and chat with you about the best approach in your opinion. as i'm sure you understand, a simple flash will go a long way to improving the response from the mods applied. i guess most people here simply 'tack' on all the externals and never remap. i've always tried to properly compensate for the mods on the car - results are clear. thanks again.
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02-14-2013 | 12:11 PM
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i plan on calling vivid racing and looking into their softronic software option a bit. the following page outlines the results i'm looking for from a flash. why spend the money on headers, sport cats, mufflers and intake and then not spend $995 to optimize the results?? seems odd to me, unless you believe you have the best results already just from the hardware or you're simply looking for aural results and accept the compromises in power delivery.
http://www.softronictuning.com/catal...duct_info.html
http://www.softronictuning.com/catal...duct_info.html
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02-14-2013 | 10:05 PM
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Pirelli PZero or Mich PS2's. Unless you using the car to extreme conditions and doing it often, your brakes should be fine, but you will need to check them often and ensure the fluid is changed once a year.
Have fun, but dont put a bunch of money into mods that will make you "feel" as though your car is faster or louder than another one, when the last part is about all your going to get out of them.
Have fun, but dont put a bunch of money into mods that will make you "feel" as though your car is faster or louder than another one, when the last part is about all your going to get out of them.
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02-15-2013 | 08:25 AM
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i plan on calling vivid racing and looking into their softronic software option a bit. the following page outlines the results i'm looking for from a flash. why spend the money on headers, sport cats, mufflers and intake and then not spend $995 to optimize the results?? seems odd to me, unless you believe you have the best results already just from the hardware or you're simply looking for aural results and accept the compromises in power delivery.
http://www.softronictuning.com/catal...duct_info.html
http://www.softronictuning.com/catal...duct_info.html
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02-15-2013 | 10:16 AM
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so, you're going to DEs on street tires and stock pads... not sure i can reply to this without sounding like a dick, but do me a favor and check post #5 in this thread. i appreciate your insight, but the problem with forums like this is everyone who has spent a day at a DE wants to sound like an authority on mods, car set-up and when one would be best served to bump up to a GT3. just sayin'. now, if i happen to be speaking to bill auberlen or boris said, you have my deepest apologies.
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02-15-2013 | 10:26 AM
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I have the softronic and am very pleased. I installed it initially with only 200 cell cats and noticed a big difference. Similar to the difference between normal mode and sport mode. The normal mode acted more like sport mode and sport mode was now incrementally faster (sport plus).
the issue now will be to speak with vivid and see if they need to customize something or if a generic X51/200 cell/cans/intake program exists and will be sufficient. when i eventually get this sorted out, i will post results. i still hope to do a dyno pull afterwards just to see final numbers and where improvements in the curve were made. i think others would be interested also.
thanks again, white rock.
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02-15-2013 | 11:03 AM
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more info
I had my software setup for 93 octane and the cats. However, I just added the x-51 airbox, Gt3 TB, Maxspeed 84mm plenum, fabspeed headers, twin BMC filters and the software adapted after about 10 minutes of driving with a few hard pulls, just as the guys at Vivid said it would. With that said, they do customize the software to what you currently have on your car.
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02-15-2013 | 12:03 PM
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http://www.awe-tuning.com/awe-997sexhaust
we need real world, non-tuning/retail shop results that people here can actually believe in. i think it's entirely possible to get a 997S into an adjusted-for 395hp range with bolt-ons and software. that's a nice bump.
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I had my software setup for 93 octane and the cats. However, I just added the x-51 airbox, Gt3 TB, Maxspeed 84mm plenum, fabspeed headers, twin BMC filters and the software adapted after about 10 minutes of driving with a few hard pulls, just as the guys at Vivid said it would. With that said, they do customize the software to what you currently have on your car.
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Thanks C4Sbeebe for posting this question. I've had the same question as well and I've been following all the comments here for the past few days. I've been getting a lot of conflicting advice from people and posts but intuitively I think ECU re-mapping should have benefits for cars that have modified intakes and exhausts. We need more people like White Rock to comment 
I have a 997.1 S with Fabspeed intake, gt3 TB, IPD plenum (82 mm), Fabspeed 200 cell cats and mufflers and trying to decide if I should do an ECU remap.
Please keep us posted with your decision.
I have a 997.1 S with Fabspeed intake, gt3 TB, IPD plenum (82 mm), Fabspeed 200 cell cats and mufflers and trying to decide if I should do an ECU remap.
Please keep us posted with your decision.
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02-15-2013 | 12:59 PM
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Thanks C4Sbeebe for posting this question. I've had the same question as well and I've been following all the comments here for the past few days. I've been getting a lot of conflicting advice from people and posts but intuitively I think ECU re-mapping should have benefits for cars that have modified intakes and exhausts. We need more people like White Rock to comment
I have a 997.1 S with Fabspeed intake, gt3 TB, IPD plenum, Fabspeed 200 cell cats and mufflers and trying to decide if I should do an ECU remap.
Please keep us posted with your decision.
I have a 997.1 S with Fabspeed intake, gt3 TB, IPD plenum, Fabspeed 200 cell cats and mufflers and trying to decide if I should do an ECU remap.
Please keep us posted with your decision.
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02-15-2013 | 01:34 PM
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In the past, with many of my BMWs and 'S' Audis, I would simply swap in a Conforti chip (for a BMW) or ship out the ECU on the Audis for an upgrade, based on certain mods, and hope for the best. I never really got to the point of dyno tuning any of my cars to maximize the specific mods on the car. I have spoken with a shop that has suggested I go the GIAC upgrade method with some additional tuning to maximize results. They stated that true dyno tuning would be cost prohibitive compared to the GIAC route. So, basic question is; what have all of you done to maximize your mods/results when it comes to the ECU? Flash and hope for the best or have some of you taken it a step or 2 further? I have the typical mods, so there may be a GIAC flash upgrade that already takes into account everything I have. Just curious what everyone here has done and how successful you think your route was. I know I'm wasting my mods without a proper flash/tune.
If anyone is in the Dallas area, what shop did you use and what was the extent of your tuning with that shop? RAC is right down the road from where I work and I plan on speaking with them also.
My mods consist of:
X51 headers
Fabspeed X-pipe 200 sport cats
Carpgraphic sport cans
Evo CAI
Thanks.
If anyone is in the Dallas area, what shop did you use and what was the extent of your tuning with that shop? RAC is right down the road from where I work and I plan on speaking with them also.
My mods consist of:
X51 headers
Fabspeed X-pipe 200 sport cats
Carpgraphic sport cans
Evo CAI
Thanks.
Softronic software (I'd stay away from GIAC personally)
Fabspeed catless x-pipe (dont go catless if you're concerned with low end)
IPE mufflers
Maxspeed plenum and GT3 TB
3rd radiator
LWFW
LSD
I've been told the first 4 should give me a real world 35 whp (I'll post dyno results when it's all done). Installing a 3rd rad to keep it cooler on hot track days and the LWFW and LSD to put and keep the power down better.
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I had my software setup for 93 octane and the cats. However, I just added the x-51 airbox, Gt3 TB, Maxspeed 84mm plenum, fabspeed headers, twin BMC filters and the software adapted after about 10 minutes of driving with a few hard pulls, just as the guys at Vivid said it would. With that said, they do customize the software to what you currently have on your car.
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02-15-2013 | 04:01 PM
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I am also now speaking with Josh about their Softronics software and it seems to show great potential. I'm discussing a post-software dyno run, with my given set of mods, to show real world, non-biased numbers and exact hp/torque curves. i believe seeing this from an ordinary list member would go a long way towards validating their claims. Will keep you all updated.
