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Old 04-25-2013 | 08:01 PM
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Feel like I'm spinning in circles. Had a great car to look at in Chicago landed in a flash flood and grounded. The owner was caught in the same storm. Did make it to the dealer to look at 2006 C2S w/29k miles but dealer was a typical used car slime ball that sold luxury inventory. Car wasn't right!

Had deposit on second choice car (2005 C2S BLK/BLK w/34k miles) in California and my salesmen was on vacation the day I flew out to work at Grand Prix of Long Beach - yup - forgot to list it as pending. Sold before I could get there. Fate I guess as the Chicago flood caused.

Found another 2006 C2S with 34,600 miles. Oh- but wait there are two of these cars one from forum gentlemen which I believe owns the car. And when I pulled a CARFAX the vin pops up car was also listed at a dealer in another state. Photos of same car - weird situation. Needless to say the owner off the forum was slightly pissed. I'm left confused.

The prices on these 2005-2007 are nowhere near logical. Example: same year, similar features, miles close and 8-10k delta. Then 2007 less miles @ less money as a 2005 with more miles??!?!?!

Last choice PorscheUSA.com pre-owned search found a few cars...well come to find out that is useless...as porsche doesn't update the darn list and all of them are already sold (most calls end with, oh yea we sold that unit 2 months ago).

Any suggestions? Sold my car in one day and now using company car on weekends which sucks. Haha.

Really want a car with high 20's to mid 30's miles. As I think that will be the less troublesome. There is one black C2S on this forum which I really liked (original Chicago car) but 48k miles kinda scares me because I plan on driving the car not a garage queen. So in a year I will be considered a high miler.

OMG I can't believe how hard it is to find the right car. Nobody's fault but mine as my budget is lower than it should be. $42-44k because I want to pay cash and not borrow a cent for a pleasure item. It's the way I was raised. Loan on home that's it! And my wife's lease car as I want my kids in a new car all the time.

Maybe I just wait another year and buy a 997.2. Can't believe I'm even saying that statement. Waited 35 years to own a Porsche (owned several other cars that could have bought a Porsche but never was right time). And had to get the M3, C55, Corvette Z06, Saleen Mustang out of my system. All stages in life I guess. At the point I want the refined performance with heritage and I can't find the right car.

Ok - soap box - and I'm off it. Haha
 
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Old 04-25-2013 | 08:45 PM
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I was in exactly the same boat as you.

I've loved Porsche's for more than 30 years now. And have badly wanted a 911 since the early 80's. I was looking at the same years mileage and prices as you. I was paying attention to cars all over the U.S.

But once I picked up the AutoTrader and concentrated on cars local to me here in So Cal. I found what I was looking for in pretty short order. I don't know how close you are to Chicago but you should be able to do the same thing if you are close.

I strongly recommend waiting 'till you find the car that is very close to what you want. My 911 is beautiful (but not perfect, given its 7 years old now), it makes me happy every time I get into it. Stick to private sellers if you have the patience and the confidence to negotiate. Get a pre-purchase inspection. And don't buy a pre 2005 car. Stick with the newer IMS bearing.

What are a few extra months now, when you will have years to enjoy your 911 once you find the right one for you.

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Feel like I'm spinning in circles. Had a great car to look at in Chicago landed in a flash flood and grounded. The owner was caught in the same storm. Did make it to the dealer to look at 2006 C2S w/29k miles but dealer was a typical used car slime ball that sold luxury inventory. Car wasn't right!

Had deposit on second choice car (2005 C2S BLK/BLK w/34k miles) in California and my salesmen was on vacation the day I flew out to work at Grand Prix of Long Beach - yup - forgot to list it as pending. Sold before I could get there. Fate I guess as the Chicago flood caused.

Found another 2006 C2S with 34,600 miles. Oh- but wait there are two of these cars one from forum gentlemen which I believe owns the car. And when I pulled a CARFAX the vin pops up car was also listed at a dealer in another state. Photos of same car - weird situation. Needless to say the owner off the forum was slightly pissed. I'm left confused.

The prices on these 2005-2007 are nowhere near logical. Example: same year, similar features, miles close and 8-10k delta. Then 2007 less miles @ less money as a 2005 with more miles??!?!?!

Last choice PorscheUSA.com pre-owned search found a few cars...well come to find out that is useless...as porsche doesn't update the darn list and all of them are already sold (most calls end with, oh yea we sold that unit 2 months ago).

Any suggestions? Sold my car in one day and now using company car on weekends which sucks. Haha.

Really want a car with high 20's to mid 30's miles. As I think that will be the less troublesome. There is one black C2S on this forum which I really liked (original Chicago car) but 48k miles kinda scares me because I plan on driving the car not a garage queen. So in a year I will be considered a high miler.

OMG I can't believe how hard it is to find the right car. Nobody's fault but mine as my budget is lower than it should be. $42-44k because I want to pay cash and not borrow a cent for a pleasure item. It's the way I was raised. Loan on home that's it! And my wife's lease car as I want my kids in a new car all the time.

Maybe I just wait another year and buy a 997.2. Can't believe I'm even saying that statement. Waited 35 years to own a Porsche (owned several other cars that could have bought a Porsche but never was right time). And had to get the M3, C55, Corvette Z06, Saleen Mustang out of my system. All stages in life I guess. At the point I want the refined performance with heritage and I can't find the right car.

Ok - soap box - and I'm off it. Haha
 
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Old 04-25-2013 | 08:57 PM
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It took me over 8 months to find the perfect car for me. You've been looking for how long? Under a month?

You'll learn to decipher the codes hidden in the listings and ask the right questions. Eventually you'll find the right car and you'll be experienced at the hunt and smart enough to hop on it.

It can be frustrating, but it takes time and patience, especially if you've set a low budget. Winter prices will be better, but supply will be down as well.
 
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How about a base cab with CPO ? See one listed local . http://www.thecollectionporschemiami...46019/info.php
 
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Thanks for the words of hope

Originally Posted by dealy663
I was in exactly the same boat as you.

I've loved Porsche's for more than 30 years now. And have badly wanted a 911 since the early 80's. I was looking at the same years mileage and prices as you. I was paying attention to cars all over the U.S.

But once I picked up the AutoTrader and concentrated on cars local to me here in So Cal. I found what I was looking for in pretty short order. I don't know how close you are to Chicago but you should be able to do the same thing if you are close.

I strongly recommend waiting 'till you find the car that is very close to what you want. My 911 is beautiful (but not perfect, given its 7 years old now), it makes me happy every time I get into it. Stick to private sellers if you have the patience and the confidence to negotiate. Get a pre-purchase inspection. And don't buy a pre 2005 car. Stick with the newer IMS bearing.

What are a few extra months now, when you will have years to enjoy your 911 once you find the right one for you.

Derek

Derek,
I am in Michigan relocating to Texas within the next few months. I'm embarrassed to offer my cap because although ppl are asking $45-$49k I've heard of many that have accepted such offers. Not that I'm low balling and don't want to insult because I respect these cars so much. I just let my car go at $5k under what market would bear and is asking. Because this recent college grad was so passionate about the car and I got a strong deal when I bought it 'Paid it forward'. Now wish I would have held to my price which would have allowed me to have the $47k needed. But then part of me feels at peace about letting it go. The kid had emailed me 10x and left VM thanking me for the car and he is stoked. Which in a way is a great feeling.

I've got to just stick to it and be patient and just throw my offer in the hat at the cars I like and see what happens. The IMS and RMS doesn't really concern me cause I honestly doesn't seem to be a huge issue.

Lets face it - in business you can you can 100 good deals (limited reviews). one deal goes sideways and rave negative reviews. Haha

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Old 04-25-2013 | 09:13 PM
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It took me over 8 months to find the perfect car for me. You've been looking for how long? Under a month?

You'll learn to decipher the codes hidden in the listings and ask the right questions. Eventually you'll find the right car and you'll be experienced at the hunt and smart enough to hop on it.

It can be frustrating, but it takes time and patience, especially if you've set a low budget. Winter prices will be better, but supply will be down as well.
That's part of the problem is all the codes and stuff that throw me. Like take the car to 'Indy' what the hell is that. And the acronyms are endless. But that is the part of the Brand I love. I know a lot about the Brand and its history. The cars I'm pretty well versed on (from outsider perspective) because the small details I've never had to know as a respector of the Brand. Now I have to understand the mechanical flaws, codes, ownership details to maintain the baby in good order, etc.
 
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Old 04-25-2013 | 09:18 PM
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It's the Journey,....and it will make for a good story!
Haha. Yea like "one day were going to look back and laugh about this". Or "it's not you it's me". When I finally get her in the garage I'm going to take a million pictures and post the entire journey on our forum. Should make for a good read.

I had one guy ask me today...what are you a picture collector? When are you going to pick up the car. That was within three emails of asking deeper questions than miles, color, options. I wanted to know maintenance history, photos (yes more than front/rear/steering wheel pics) to see condition of front bumper cover, exhaust tips to see oil burn, brakes to determine wear. None the less this guy knew more about a Honda than a porsche. Trust fund kid. Dad bought him the car come to find out and couldn't tell me the last oil change interval. No respect for the car. On to the next.

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I bought an 07S, took 3 months to find.

After I had it I found out more options etc that I wanted, kept it for a year, then took 4 months to find what I wanted. Just takes time.
 
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Old 04-25-2013 | 09:28 PM
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Your Porsche will find YOU!
I truly believe that. That's why I believe the weather kept me from seeing the car(s) in Chicago and California. I've learned in business that you never force a deal. If you do your part with honor and integrity the deal will just fall into place. If you force it - typically there is a bad ending or losses. Believe the best in everyone but always trust your gut (not your degrees). Something's school and experience can't teach you.

So I will continue the search and do all due diligence and in the end trust my gut. Because you buy the owner as much as the car. After all these particular cars become part of a lifestyle not just a hunk of metal in the garage stall. Kinda like a Ferrari except with more class. Haha just kidding - those are fine for wow look at me cars but not for actually driving and enjoying. Only DD Ferrari is one owned by bankers and hedge fund managers. All of us making $250k or less just isn't a luxury we can justify. Or at least not me. LOL

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I bought an 07S, took 3 months to find.

After I had it I found out more options etc that I wanted, kept it for a year, then took 4 months to find what I wanted. Just takes time.
I'm thinking maybe I should take my $$$ and compromise and buy a really low mile (25k miles +/-) base 911 2006-2007 and nicely appointed. Then in a year sell it and upgrade to a 997S. As the 991 become flooded in the market the used market 997.1 will open up. Hell maybe even a 997.2 who knows.

What is your (or anyone's thought on that process).

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How about a base cab with CPO ? See one listed local . http://www.thecollectionporschemiami...46019/info.php
Nice car, nice price. I would jump on it if shopping.
 
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Old 04-25-2013 | 10:24 PM
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Nice car, nice price. I would jump on it if shopping.
Car is beautiful. Just not a cab guy. Owned one convertible and just never put the top down and nothing like a coupe. She is nice no doubt.
 
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Your price range should be fine for a car around 40k miles. I paid $44,000 for my 2005 C2S Certified Pre-Owned from a dealer three years ago and it had just under 50k on the clock.
 


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