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Old 05-29-2013, 09:26 AM
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Here is my experience with the 3M stuff:
I'd like to share my experience with this product in hopes that others might have a better experience. In short I followed the directions to a "T" watched the videos online, practiced my technique etc.... And still ended up not putting on enough product, so I ended up with a terrible looking result, and then a monster of a project to remove.

Here is what my experience was:
After driving to go pick up the product, and then watching an hour or so of all the videos of it I could find online- It then took me a almost three hours to wash and then mask and then wax the front end of the car. I'd recently done a clay bar to remove all contaminants....Otherwise I'd add in that time. Spraying on the product took 30 or so minutes. Some of the challenges that come up included Breeze blowing the material, Bugs landing in it while wet(be sure to have toothpicks handy) . Family needing my attention -make sure your spouse and kids know this will be an all day commitment. The last challenge being that it did not "feel good" as I was prepping and applying the product- usually when I'm working on my car I'm in heaven..I'm guessing that I got this feeling because everything that I've done to my "baby" has always felt/been top notch. I think because I felt I was maybe cutting corners(rather than having a true clear bra applied) it didn't feel enjoyable.

At the end of the day I had a car that looked like a patchwork quilt of smooth and then bumpy "orange peel" texture. In hindsight I must not have put enough of the product on, but as I was doing it, I thought for sure I had put too much on ..... and was going to get drips any moment. It was extremely hard to see the product on my white paint. I should have had a clue that I had not put enough on in that I only used 1can for the whole front end. But you only have a total of 10 minutes for application... So you have to just take it one section at a time and hope you got enough- but not too much. How anyone could do that -I have no idea.
After discovering this morning that it still looked as terrible as it did yesterday I decided I'd better get to removing the product before it really hardened and became resistant to water.
I spent 2 hours trying to remove the product from my car by scratching it off with my fingernails in less than dime size bits at a time. I'd normally never apply finger nail to paint. But this was the only way to scratch it off. Then I remembered one of the reviews I'd read on a corvette forum where the guy was complaining that it came off with high pressure water in a wash your own car garage. Luckily---sort of.... The product blasted right off.... But then (after paying as much for the use of the high pressure hose as the product) I got home and found that the car was covered in an adhesive like material that was all over the front end. Just like when you pull duct tape off of something. I spent three hours using a microfiber cloth and some quick wax and elbow grease to get all of it off. Then spent a couple of hours ( it became a blur at that point) re-clay baring the car and then polishing and then waxing. Thank god I've been able to return my beauty back to her former glory. Of course it's now 7:30pm and I haven't seen my family all weekend. I did learn however that I would be smart to not be penny wise and pound foolish in the future....and that I must really really want a clear bra.
If it was enjoyable that would be one thing, since we all love wasting time pampering our cars...but this felt like work, and I could easily have made enough money in a tiny sliver of a fraction of the time that this took to have paid someone to do a professional clear bra.
I bet the product could work as advertised --- I just wouldn't ever take the time to practice my technique enough to become a pro....and even then it would be really hard to know whether you had enough to actually protect against rock chips.
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Originally Posted by SBPORSCHE
Here is my experience with the 3M stuff:
I'd like to share my experience with this product in hopes that others might have a better experience. In short I followed the directions to a "T" watched the videos online, practiced my technique etc.... And still ended up not putting on enough product, so I ended up with a terrible looking result, and then a monster of a project to remove.

Here is what my experience was:
After driving to go pick up the product, and then watching an hour or so of all the videos of it I could find online- It then took me a almost three hours to wash and then mask and then wax the front end of the car. I'd recently done a clay bar to remove all contaminants....Otherwise I'd add in that time. Spraying on the product took 30 or so minutes. Some of the challenges that come up included Breeze blowing the material, Bugs landing in it while wet(be sure to have toothpicks handy) . Family needing my attention -make sure your spouse and kids know this will be an all day commitment. The last challenge being that it did not "feel good" as I was prepping and applying the product- usually when I'm working on my car I'm in heaven..I'm guessing that I got this feeling because everything that I've done to my "baby" has always felt/been top notch. I think because I felt I was maybe cutting corners(rather than having a true clear bra applied) it didn't feel enjoyable.

At the end of the day I had a car that looked like a patchwork quilt of smooth and then bumpy "orange peel" texture. In hindsight I must not have put enough of the product on, but as I was doing it, I thought for sure I had put too much on ..... and was going to get drips any moment. It was extremely hard to see the product on my white paint. I should have had a clue that I had not put enough on in that I only used 1can for the whole front end. But you only have a total of 10 minutes for application... So you have to just take it one section at a time and hope you got enough- but not too much. How anyone could do that -I have no idea.
After discovering this morning that it still looked as terrible as it did yesterday I decided I'd better get to removing the product before it really hardened and became resistant to water.
I spent 2 hours trying to remove the product from my car by scratching it off with my fingernails in less than dime size bits at a time. I'd normally never apply finger nail to paint. But this was the only way to scratch it off. Then I remembered one of the reviews I'd read on a corvette forum where the guy was complaining that it came off with high pressure water in a wash your own car garage. Luckily---sort of.... The product blasted right off.... But then (after paying as much for the use of the high pressure hose as the product) I got home and found that the car was covered in an adhesive like material that was all over the front end. Just like when you pull duct tape off of something. I spent three hours using a microfiber cloth and some quick wax and elbow grease to get all of it off. Then spent a couple of hours ( it became a blur at that point) re-clay baring the car and then polishing and then waxing. Thank god I've been able to return my beauty back to her former glory. Of course it's now 7:30pm and I haven't seen my family all weekend. I did learn however that I would be smart to not be penny wise and pound foolish in the future....and that I must really really want a clear bra.
If it was enjoyable that would be one thing, since we all love wasting time pampering our cars...but this felt like work, and I could easily have made enough money in a tiny sliver of a fraction of the time that this took to have paid someone to do a professional clear bra.
I bet the product could work as advertised --- I just wouldn't ever take the time to practice my technique enough to become a pro....and even then it would be really hard to know whether you had enough to actually protect against rock chips.
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I had finished reading this about 15 minutes prior to calling you. Thanks for the inquiry about us doing the clear film on your GTS Cabriolet. We look forward to seeing you both in July.
 
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I've heard Elevated Auto Concepts does a good job but never tried them out. They do some nice wrap projects I've seen
 
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Originally Posted by amge63
I'm a true believer in the clear bra. And my 3M film did yellow after six years. But I never noticed it until I peeled it off. My stone guard on the 997 is yellowing now, and that came from the factory. So I recognize everything has a life to it.

I just saw this product - I am really excited to try it now...The last quote I got to put a new clear bra on the one I peeled off was over $1,000...Now there is this.

http://news.3m.com/press-release/com...easy-use-spray

Amazon.com: 3M 90000 Paint Defender Spray Film: Automotive

I've seen the commercials for this stuff. Very curious as to how it looks in person. If anyone ventures to try it please update this thread - Subscribed
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Blkonblk- That's the product I used. Search google for reviews .. You'll find other experiences like mine.
 
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Thanks for all the input. I decided to go with Xpel ultimate. I had Tintmaster in Canoga Park do the install and I'm pretty happy with the outcome. Very clean and you can hardly see the cut lines. Porsche AutoGallery uses the same guy for their cars.
 
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Precision auto werks in socal does it look up imgtrr. He is awesome. Tell him bob sent u!
 
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Here's a recent job that we did using XPEL Ultimate

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...996tt-cab.html
 
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Originally Posted by Romysc4s
Thanks for all the input. I decided to go with Xpel ultimate. I had Tintmaster in Canoga Park do the install and I'm pretty happy with the outcome. Very clean and you can hardly see the cut lines. Porsche AutoGallery uses the same guy for their cars.
I know it's been only a few month since you have this done. Still happy with the work Tintmaster did? Did you do the full hood or partial? TIA
 
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Still good, no complains. And yes I did the full hood.

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I know it's been only a few month since you have this done. Still happy with the work Tintmaster did? Did you do the full hood or partial? TIA
 
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Still good, no complains. And yes I did the full hood.
Thx! I'll have to call to see if its too late for me to do the bra since I've been driving bra-less for the last 4500 miles.
 
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Still good, no complains. And yes I did the full hood.
Romy, just curious, did you look into Ghost Shield Film in Newbury Park, or hear anything about them? I'm about to get my C2S Cab done and they're one of the companies I'm considering. They use SunTek film, which is supposed to have similar self-healing qualities to Xpel Ultimate but is a couple of hundred dollars cheaper for full front.
 
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Romy, just curious, did you look into Ghost Shield Film in Newbury Park, or hear anything about them? I'm about to get my C2S Cab done and they're one of the companies I'm considering. They use SunTek film, which is supposed to have similar self-healing qualities to Xpel Ultimate but is a couple of hundred dollars cheaper for full front.
No sorry, have not heard of them.
 
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