Hi all,

I've been going back and forth with the seller of an used 2010 base Carrera with factory Nav for a while on what options are on the car, and I might go test drive the car this weekend to see if this is it (been looking for an used .2 for a few months now).

The seller said the car is equipped with factory Nav (which I can see from the pictures, as the PCM has that vertical SIM card slot), but it doesn't have factory XM option, which means I cannot get Real-Time traffic info to show up on the navi map.

My question is, what options do I have if I want this feature? I heard of NAV TV, but that's strictly for music only, right? How about factory retrofit fit kit from Porsche?

I also have a few questions:

- seller is not sure if the car has xenon or not. Does all 911, even base, come with xenon as standard?

- for some reason, a couple of car websites listed that 2010 911 has standard park-assist system. Is that true? If it doesn't, how can I add this option afterward?

- how about universal link (garage remote) and auto-dimming rear mirror? Are those standard as well?

- by he way, does the passenger side mirror "dip" when the car is in reverse?

Really appreciate the help!

 

On my 2010 C2 base;
Xenons were std
I do not have park assist, nor auto dimming mirror which were not std. N.B. a hill assist clutch is std.
I have univ link and believe it is std, '& not part of a pkg.
the psgr mirror does dip if you keep the mirror dial set to the psgr side
just because you see the photo of the PCM with NAV and MAP buttons and SIM slot does not mean there is nav -
I do not think you can add any functionality to the PCM, I believe the only way to retrofit is to swap out the PCM for either aftermarket or a new PCM with the desired functions.

cheers,

 

Thanks for the reply!

The seller wasn't sure if it has navi or not so he's going to check it out. Initially I thought it has navi but just no XM receiver. Now if it turns out it doesn't have navi, I will need to invest in some aftermarket head unit. This wasn't expected so I will need to re-evaluate my offering on this car. Of course, need to get a PPI first before we start talking about the final price. Hopefully everything checks out.

 

On '09, the passenger side mirror only dips if the car has seat memory, i.e. power seats or adaptive sports seats. I believe it's the same for later models.

 

For starters, there is only a small amount of stuff that is 'standard' on a Porsche.. most things are options you pick a-la-carte when the car is ordered (buyer or dealer pick them).

Mirror dip - thats a feature of the seat memory option - that may only come with certain seat types.. bit if they have the numbered 1/2/3 buttons in the door panel for seat memory, the mirror dip 'should' be part of that.

If the PCM has the NAV button, it 'likely' has nav. Porsche puts buttons in for what you have... so it is not very Porsche-like to have a button for NAV and no nav.. but the way to test is power up the PCM in the car and press the nav button. If you get a map, you have nav.

The SIM card slot is unrelated to NAV, it is for one of the 3 phone options offered on the 2009+ cars. One of those options is a PHONE -car is a GSM phone by inserting a SIM slot. This option is a different phone option from Bluetooth HandsFreeProfile Phone, and different from SIM over Bluetooth phone. All cars with PCM come with the SIM slot, regardless of phone option specification.

For real-time traffic to be superimposed on the map, you need the navtraffic feed from XM. If thats doable via an aftermarket SAT solution feeding the data to the PCM's nav module, I don't know. I do recall reading that one cannot add a nav module to the PCM, that nav is integrated/or not, on the mother board of the PCM, so a new PCM WITH nave would need to be purchased from Porsche tied to your VIN.

Autodimming mirrors - is a build option - but as I think the whole system is in the mirrors - rearview and the wing mirror, one could replace the mirrors - but you'd have to run the wire out to the wing mirror.

Homelink - this may be standard - 3 buttons up on the roof just at the place the inside lights are.

Park Assist? The ultrasonic sensors in the rear bumper that beep more quickly the closer the object behind and the car get to each other - thats an option

Hill Assist (that holds the brake when starting on a hill as you engage gear manually) is standard on manual transmission cars from what I understand.

 

Thanks for the replies everyone. So I purchased the car this last Saturday and the car has (and doesn't have) the following:

No Navigation. When pressed the MAP button, it had "navigation is not available". The dealer said it has no extended navi module which is costly to add (have to replace the PCM). I'll need to look into aftermarket headunit, which will also solve the traffic info issue.

Passenger side mirror doesn't dip. No auto dimming mirrors (all three mirrors). Yes on HomeLink but it's hard to program (don't like the fact I can't erase one of the three settings without erasing everything).

Got Bluetooth phone to work, which is great. Other than that, the car has PDK and Sports Chrono. And it also has Universal Audio Interface. That's it.

By the way, I tried a Bluetooth adaptor to do A2DP, and this is adaptor plugs into the iPod port (which also use up the USB port when I use the factory Y-split cable). However, the music only comes on when I select AUX as source. Nothing when I select USB or iPod. Is that right?

Last question: the car does not chirp when I lock/unlock the door with the remote. Is there a way to make it chirp?

Thanks for the help!

 

1) car doesn't chirp when you lock/unlock - only blinks - thats the way Porsche builds it. An aftermarket module can add horn beeps on lock/unlock if its worth $100+ to you to get that. (smartTop)

2) Audio - The y-split cable is only using the USB port for 5v DC power (the DIN iPod socket only provides 12v for the firewire charge line that Apple abandoned some years ago) - the device must be sending the audio in via the iPod port from how its plugged in. The AUX source only gets audio from the 3.5mm aux socket in the cubby.. is anything plugged into that? If you are getting audio on the AUX source without something plugged into that 3.5mm input, something is wired up oddly in the car - I'd look for some other aftermarket electronics that may be installed.

Extended navigation or mapping (forget what its called) is a separate option that allows the mapping system to track where you drive off of the roads the mapping system knows about - and is an add on in addition to the core mapping/nav system.

You should be able to take that car's VIN # and give it to Porsche (dealer) and find out exactly what options that care was manufactured with.

 

Yeah the car has no navi for sure. The dealer confirmed it. Maybe I'll just get a mount and out either iPhone or iPad up on the dash when I need route guidance.

As for the Bluetooth A2DP adaptor I plugged in and music comes out from AUX, I had nothing plugged into the AUX; Just the y-cable and that adaptor on the iPod cable end. That is weird. Maybe I'll borrow an iPod and see if the music comes out from iPod or AUX source.

 

With nothing plugged into the AUX port and the PCM playing audio when AUX source is selected is very odd and I'd say should not happen. You have a factory fitted Universal Audio Interface thats hardwired to the PCM, right (not an after the fact FM modulated solution). If the device is plugged into the iPOD port on the UAI, you should get audio from the iPOD source. If its picking up sound on the AUX I'm wondering if, without any cable plugged in, its picking up crosstalk from other wires or misrouting it in the PCM.

 

Yeah I thought that was weird. I'm going to find an iPod to test it out. Not sure if it's coming out of AUX because it's a Bluetooth A2DP adaptor that plugged into the iPod cable, which I know shouldn't have anything to do with the possible crosstalk.

 

I just remember that the aux channel gets its feed from the 3.5mm aux plug.. and if nothing is plugged in there, who knows what the AUX source is amplifying... could be picking some signal from another source , or the analog wires from the iDock cable running parallel to the aux wires bleed over. But if the A2DP dongle plugged into the iDock port (the DIN port) on the interface doesn't produce source on the iPOD Source selection in the PCM is a sign something is amiss. Try plugging in an iOS device directly to the iDock (DIN) connector via the yCable and see if you get that source playing in the PCM form the iPod source selector.. you should .. if not something is way wrong.