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Old 02-05-2015 | 09:05 AM
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997s with over 100k true higher miles

Many consider over about 75k high miles. My idea of high miles starts over 100k. I'm considering 997 but only look at cars with over 100k.

For those with over 100k, let me know what I should be aware of when looking at potential cars.
 
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A lot of the tried and true "this part get replaced at these miles" or years, has been pretty commonly discussed within many threads from the archives here.


any answer/thoughts of others ive ever needed have mostly came by searching past threads.


ill throw this at you... at over 100K miles, your potential car could be approaching its second, or even 3rd set of brakes, maybe needing new clutch for the first, or even second time.
Plugs/coils...
Water pump...
AOS...
Alt...
switches,etc...list is long.
the trade off buying a cheap priced car is nickel dime repairs of more frequency .
 
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My reason for buying high miles cars isn't solely for price . They are usually well sorted . I try and wait until a well cared for one comes for sell.
I've had better luck with high mile car then low mile garage queens.

Increased frequency of repairs gives me something to tinker with.

Lastly , the lower price keeps the wife off my back about too many expensive toys. trust me I would much rather spend more for a lower mile possibly better vehicle and call it a day. So higher miles car fits the budget she suggest
 

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i would never see myself with a 100K miles Porsche, even with a 956.

However we do have two vehicles that over 100K miles, Acura and Nissan.

Jap car = run forever!
 
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i would never see myself with a 100K miles Porsche, even with a 956.

However we do have two vehicles that over 100K miles, Acura and Nissan.

Jap car = run forever!



Well, I am a poor brown boy. I have owned my '83SC Cab for over 15 years and was my daily driver until I gave it to my son. Actually, I think I bought it when my daughter was 3 so maybe I have owned it close to 20 years.

Let see: (4 days per week x 51 weeks x 60 miles x 15 years = 183,XXX miles on the same engine and compression and leakdown are still almost the same as the first day I got it). 183,000 miles is super conservative as it excludes weekends, trips to Las Vegas, Northern California, weekend joy rides, etc. And yes, I have replaced the gears of the odometer as the plastic gears do tend to disintegrate with time

In summary, as long as it was taken care of, I would not mind buying a 100,000-mile Porsche.
 
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At 100K, things will need to be replaced, you might want to check out the prices of those parts and labor (especially if you are going to take it to a dealer). Your 100K mile 997 might cost you $30K and your maintenance might cost you $5K just for one visit. What if your IMS decides to explode, do you have $25K to replace the engine. My assumption is probably not if you are looking for a 100K mile 997. This is the advice I tell my friends when they asked me about used 997.1s.
 
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So you guys are saying the air cooled car can last more miles than the modern cars?

My 87 911 I bought with 115k and sold with 202k no rebuild and good compression . It's at 265k still no rebuild.

Other than normal wear items , u never had any issues. I don't think I spent more than $10k total ownership.
 
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So you guys are saying the air cooled car can last more miles than the modern cars?

My 87 911 I bought with 115k and sold with 202k no rebuild and good compression . It's at 265k still no rebuild.

Other than normal wear items , u never had any issues. I don't think I spent more than $10k total ownership.

Well not 100% correct. Let's not forget that the air cooled Porsches, compared to the 997, has less items:

No coolant
No hoses
No radiator
No water pump
Etc

And the air cooled Porsches get lubricated with 12 qt of oil!

The 997 is too new to determine if it will last as long as the air cooled cars.
 

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i for one am not too worried. By all accounts if your 997 has been reliable, it should continue to be reliable. Even if you have to throw money into it, as long as it's not something like an engine replacement, it's still cheaper than buying a new car. And with the way P prices are rising, I think 997 owners are going to be in for a big shock at what a new P car will cost in 5 -10 years.
 
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If it helps...

I’ve picked up a 997.1 with over 100k in Sept. Same reasoning but I also want to put a ton of commuter miles on it. The premium paid for low miles didn’t seem to add up when you are going to be driving 300-500 miles a week. Super low miles on an old 997 almost scares me more than normal miles/well maintained and doing some preventive maintenance.

This quote about IMS failure from the porsche club of america gets to the point: (http://goo.gl/3C6JJY)
“Sorry to say, it tends to be the pampered pets and garage queens that suffer the most. Do not garage it; drive it like Porsche designed it to be driven. Do not be a tender foot. Use more RPM and wind it up once in a while. This will unload the IMS bearing and aid in lubrication.”

details:
Carrera S cab with new clutch and full records - $29k
upfront preventive maintenance - $2.8k
-new water pump
-new coolant reservoir
-oil change
-PPIs
 
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Nice, pictures please...glad to see I'm not the only one who wants a high mile car. .

So according to PCA, driving these cars and on the aggressive side is better for the IMS. Another reason that true enthusiasts dont want garage queens.
 

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Is 997 3.6 with chrono package worth it for right price ?
 
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Maintenance is key. If the previous owner took well care of the car, you don't have much to worry about. Make sure things have been replaced and taken care of at the right intervals before you buy. There are some low mileage cars out there that have been neglected and abused. So mileage doesn't mean much. Someone on this forum once said "Buy the owner, not the car". That is certainly a great way to put it. Buy from an enthusiast that babied the car and you'll be fine.
 
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I bought my 06 C2 in 2010 w/29,000 miles (was a CPO). I now have 110,000 miles on it. I drive it almost everyday.

I have had to do maintenance and repairs as would be expected and they are not inexpensive.

If the car has been well maintained, it should be fine. I have no plans to sell my car. I might add another 911 but I plan on keeping this one for another 100,000 miles.
 


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