So I do not want manual because there is a lot of traffic here, depending on certain times and while down shift rev match from say 4th to 3rd is one of the greatest feelings ever - the reality is most of the time your going from 1st to 2nd and 3rd and backwards. And most of the time these are routine gear changes, not the high revving power shifts.

So are you guys happy with the tip?

Now a lot of people are saying the 2012 onwards BMW 8 speed auto double clutch is the smoothest and best auto, ever - even better than the Porsche and Ferrari auto's so I know I won't be expecting the tip to be a world beater and half amazing 0.000000001 second shifts.

But how do people find the speed on the shift on the tip? And downshifts, are they quick, and does the computer do a good job on rev matching and keeping it smooth?

 

My wife's Cayenne is a Tip and since it is the SUV it's fine. All 911's have been manual and have passed over 911's that were Tip, not a sports car tranny to me!

 

Wow.

For me it will still be a 3.6 litre Porsche 911, with a 0-60 of around 5 seconds.

To be honest I'm not considering performance because I can only afford a Carrera at the moment, and most top end BMW's have a better 0-60 time.

So having lightning fast gear changes for performance increase is not the thing for me right now.

What I'm going for is the rear engine rear wheel combo, the famous handling and character of the 911.

 

Then you should not have any problems. Using the Tip in straight auto mode should be fine.

I was just thinking about the feel of the rear engine, rear wheel drive this morning. Since 4 of my last 6 vehicles have been 911's I guess I just used to that feeling, but man is it nice! When people talk about "seat of the pants" feeling, the 911 gives great credos to that saying.

 

Yeah I'm sure I can still enjoy the nature of the vehicle with a tip.

But I'm not familiar with that seat pants thing you mentioned.

 

As a daily car and driving in city traffic, I'm very happy with the tiptronic. While I leave it in auto most of the time, I can down shift and switch to "manual" quickly whenever I need a quick dose of fun. The "lag" on the shifting is not an issue for daily commute.

However, when on the track, the lag is definitely very obvious, to a point at times I just left it in auto and just focus on braking and steering.

Personally I would still choose tip if it's a for daily commute in city traffic, but must have the following two options / mod:
- Sports Mode, for spirit driving and the weekend morning drive with buddies.
- Steering wheel gear shift "flipper". I hate the tip buttons on the standard steering wheel, and can easily hit these button unintentionally when turning the steering wheel.

 

Love tiptronic. Easy in traffic and fun to drive too. I don't mind the .5 second shift time, in fact I prefer it over the video game .0001 shift times the new gear boxes have. I like the old single clutch shift. Feels like a bolt action, like the aston martin vantage single clutch gear boxes, nice and heavy and reliable.

Plus you can also rev at the same as shifting down to get a really cool sound and be at the right revs sooner (rev matching). Try it next time you down shift from 3rd to second, give the accelerator a quick tap and just as you do it shift down.

 

Check with board member "Squat" (or search his posts) - he's an advocate.

 

I had a Tip on a 996 a few years ago, and had only good experiences. It exceeded my expectations, to be honest. I have a six speed now, and it really gives me more of a "sports car" feel. Maybe it's like using chopsticks when I eat Chinese food. When I'm stuck in traffic, though, I secretly wish I had a Tip. Or PDK. When I had my 996, I don't remember ever wishing I could shift manually. The tip was very intuitive, and adapted well to any driving style. When you wanted to change gears yourself, it was a helluva lot of fun.

On the other hand, I really enjoy, the visceral pleasure of manually shifting from second to third. There's something about stabbing the clutch with your left foot, burying your right foot in the gas, and snapping the gear **** forward. Just saying.

 

In short YES.

The Stick is very fun especially at take-off, however, for a DD the tip is great. Plus if you like to Auto-X the 2nd gear in Tip is perfect!

 

Maybe I'm misreading this thread but it seems like the old tiptronic and the PDK are thrown into the same basket in comparison with a manual 6sp. Anyone who's driven both the tip and the PDK has to admit that they're worlds apart in terms of driving experience. Never mind that they have exactly nothing in common mechanically or technologically.

 

The Tiptronic S in my 997.1 is great in combination with Sport Chrono in the Sport setting. Man, the howl of the engine after the tip adapts in a few minutes to city driving is sublime! You get this without being in danger of over revving the engine (which might happen with a manual tranny).

Also, I understand the chances of IMS failures are improved with tip cars, maybe someone can explain why.

 

I settled for PDK because there is loads of traffic here in Shanghai. However I do find the PDK rather useful on track later because it allows you to trail brake into corners. Driven my friends' Carrera with tiptronic on the same track and it is just not fun at all. I am afraid I have to agree that tiptronic does not belong to a sports car. Used to have it on the Cayenne S but I just left in auto for two years before I sold the car.

 

I totally agree with you about it.
So we modify the paddle shift with standard steering wheel.

 

My last 997.1 (non-S) was a tip and I had the Sport software installed at the dealership (a little over $1K) and it made a slight difference. I sold the car a little over a year ago and I've missed ownership (3 at that point and 1st tip). Since then I've test driven PDKs on "S" models and the 7 gears, and Sport mode, as well as Sport+ is phenomenal - couldn't be any more different a huge difference. However, there's still something about manual. So, I just scored another '07, but this time an "S" and manual.