correct on the HP for the 997S according to EVO's website. I can't see exhaust mods netting 50 peak rear wheel HP though.

 

I'm getting confused...are we all still talking about the RUF 3.6L kits rwhp vs. the EVO 3.6L rwhp numbers.....being thats what this thread started of. The RUF kit in mention was on a non-S 3.6L 911....why all the mention of 3.8's?
Anyone got an idea of what RUF achieved out of this 8-to-9PSI SC kit of theirs on the dyno yet....please PM me the results if you don't want to make it public, i am VERY interested!! 9PSI of properly tuned boost is an easy 430-440+rwhp on a 3.6L 996/7 ...lowered compression or not, which incendientally doesn't drop power levels as much as raising boost psi raises it* (i.e. "with proper tuning" and assuming the intercoolers up to the task as well...9PSI will make much more rwhp @9.7-to-1 than 5PSI will make on 11.3-to-1)

 

You might want to rethink what you wrote

 

huh?! please elaborate. how do you figure since both kits have a similar effective compression ratio. not sure where you pulled up "much more HP" from. when you say MUCH MORE, without any info...

 

Billy that's to the WHEELS. I saw the dyno GIAC/EVO/VF was pretty proud of it too! That exhaust system is very nice!!

 

**1999porsche911, I don't need to rethink what i wrote, I never do...thank you, not.

Karlooz, if I even attempted to get into the finer details of tuning / compression ratio / static compression & how the increase in boost PSI increases CFM's given the accomodating compressor MAPS / efficiencies of the EVO kits head unit I'd be here typing ALL night.....only, for it to be challenged by individuals on this thread whom have no clue on tuning on various F/I applications "other than their own."
I'm sorry but i just don't have the time to be a net troll and write a book on this. Tommorrow, just call ANY authority on tuning (whether it be turbo or supercharging conversions on any type of vehicle) and ask them how "dropping the compression allows a given motor to safely raise the boost (at a given octane) of their turbo/blower which nets much higher **CFMS** into the motor AT THE SAME STATIC COMPRESSION and will produce the higher HP level (assuming fuel + ignition is adjusted to the new CFM's accordingly = tuning) This stuff is too elementary to waste an evening writing about, lol...

 

dude that is all you had to say. was that so hard? why don't stop wasting your time then. sheesh. too elementary. soo friggin what if you are challenged? everyone is supposed to take your workd for gospel? ya... aren't we all exchanging ideas. isn't what this forum is for?

"hey look at me, i have all the answers because i know everything but i aint gonna tell none of ya cuz you are all a bunch of idiots who won't understand my brilliance and anyway, i'm too busy jerkin off"

 

...how did you know that!?!? ....no pun intended bro

---Kevin D.


PS: This new head gasket revelation is going to allow SC'ed 996/7's to take their power outputs to a whole new level without HAVING to rebuild the entire bottom end. (within reason)

Mind you at 3000lbs>996 C2 it'll only take approx. ~440RWHP to make a 996/7 C2 faster than a GT2 TT! A feat entirely possibly with "left over pulling away power" to spare using an EVO SC equipped 3.6L @ a tuned 9PSI*... (my fearless predictions with that vortech V2 at 9PSI... ~460+RWHP; ~430+RWHP for 3.4L's)

 

Increasing headgasket thickness (allumium/fiber and synthetic) has been used for more than 50 years to decrease the compression ratio. This is no new revelation by any stretch of the imagination. Also, have fun getting the V2, with intercooler to push 9psi on a 6 rib pulley. And if you beleive in dyno number's there already is a 3.4 996 pushing more than 430 rwhp, and if you don't, it's acceleration is faster than a stock GT2 up to about 125 mph.

 

this kompressor kit is fun

 

And when did I insenuate it was NEW to ALL automotive technology!? I didn't feel I had to state my personal experience doing the swap on my previous high-compression BMW E36 M3's inline-6 in order to allow 12PSI on pump* without detonation.
And thanks for the vote of confidence getting the vortech V2 with efficiency maps showing 20+PSI potential to blow a measily 9PSI. A custom pulley will OBVIOUSLY need to be made (smaller diameter). I don't have personal experience on that particular package as I don't have the kit on my 911 to determine in fact if the added "resistance" @ 9PSI will warrant needing to go to a higher rib belt/pulley to prevent slippage...i personally doubt it, however I would overengineer the replacement pulley to accept a larger belt just to play it safe...no big deal. GIAC for the reflashing (assuming the provided injectors will flow ~460+RWHP) and wala...it really isn't all that difficult.


---Kevin D.


PS: For EVERYONE on this forum to read *** IF 1999porsche911's lil' "chariot of fire" (LOL) can beat a or even HANG with a GT2 TT on the highway to 125MPH as he keeps claiming....I WILL WIRED TRANSFER/PAYPAL/WHATEVER $100 personally to his account....let this be my written contract* ROFL !!!!! It's past your bedtime ol' man...your hallucinating.

 

AWE-tuning claims nearly 40 @ the wheels for their full exhaust system including cats, mufflers, and headers. If added on top of the supercharger I don't see why the gains wouldn't be more profound considering how much less back pressure there would be.

I assumed something close to a peak of 500 @ the wheels wouldn't be out of question...

With X51 cylinder heads cracking 500 might be possible, I like to think positive

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Kevin D
[B]And when did I insenuate it was NEW to ALL automotive technology!? I didn't feel I had to state my personal experience doing the swap on my previous high-compression BMW E36 M3's inline-6 in order to allow 12PSI on pump* without detonation.
And thanks for the vote of confidence getting the vortech V2 with efficiency maps showing 20+PSI potential to blow a measily 9PSI. A custom pulley will OBVIOUSLY need to be made (smaller diameter). I don't have personal experience on that particular package as I don't have the kit on my 911 to determine in fact if the added "resistance" @ 9PSI will warrant needing to go to a higher rib belt/pulley to prevent slippage...i personally doubt it, however I would overengineer the replacement pulley to accept a larger belt just to play it safe...no big deal. GIAC for the reflashing (assuming the provided injectors will flow ~460+RWHP) and wala...it really isn't all that difficult.


---Kevin D.


I'll tell you what kevin, you can have my original timeslip and video of my 11.58 pass at 121 for $100,000. I don't deal in hypotheticals...just facts. You might try it some time. Speak about what you know and not what you think. You may learn a few things.

So, are you going to put up, or shut up. Or maybe just grow up.
Maybe just accept that there are others who may be a little more experienced than you.

Can you say FRICTION LOSS?

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by 1999Porsche911
[B]
When in the world did you run 11.58 @ 121? Wouldn't this be all over the place if it happened? What are you waiting for, post the slip.

 

Already reported on another forum. I don't build cars anymore for any other reason than my own satisfaction and challenge. It sure makes it alot more enjoyable having only to prove failure or success to yourself, rather than to others.