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02-12-2006 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Christian
^again, the ONLY way is if the GT2 driver is a moron behind the wheel.
Christian
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(and we all know how many high line cars ($140+K) are babied, even when being raced, by the old heads who can afford them)--- Kevin
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02-12-2006 | 08:20 PM
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^LOL, You guys are in denial and make up any reason you want that a 997S can keep up with a GT2. What if and excuses, blah blah
Same driver in each car will get a much faster time out of the GT2 than the 997S every time. From a roll or a stop, I have driven both very hard and the GT2 is without question a much quicker car.
Christian
Same driver in each car will get a much faster time out of the GT2 than the 997S every time. From a roll or a stop, I have driven both very hard and the GT2 is without question a much quicker car.
Christian
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02-12-2006 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Christian
^LOL, You guys are in denial and make up any reason you want that a 997S can keep up with a GT2. What if and excuses, blah blah
Same driver in each car will get a much faster time out of the GT2 than the 997S every time. From a roll or a stop, I have driven both very hard and the GT2 is without question a much quicker car.
Christian
Same driver in each car will get a much faster time out of the GT2 than the 997S every time. From a roll or a stop, I have driven both very hard and the GT2 is without question a much quicker car.
Christian
They're both great cars, and (stock vs. stock) the GT2 is faster like I said.
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02-12-2006 | 08:37 PM
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I figured out how we can solve this debate. Larry (loliver here on the forums) has a Club coupe and a GT2. Maybe he can give us some insight.
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02-12-2006 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Dock (Atlanta)
Reading comprehension? Did I say anywhere here that *you* said your Club was faster? I asked you a simple question, sorry you have a problem with that. And I'm not the only one here saying that the GT2 is faster than your car.
Look bud, I think I'll post my opinion any time I want. Posts here do not have to be based upon 100% experience to carry relevance, or to qualify for some posting litmus test.
Who called who ignorant?
The non-X50 Turbo has been magazine tested at 3.9 sec in the 0-60 run (C&D Sep 2000), and at 11.92 sec in the quarter (Motor Trend).
Look bud, I think I'll post my opinion any time I want. Posts here do not have to be based upon 100% experience to carry relevance, or to qualify for some posting litmus test.
Who called who ignorant?
The non-X50 Turbo has been magazine tested at 3.9 sec in the 0-60 run (C&D Sep 2000), and at 11.92 sec in the quarter (Motor Trend).
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02-12-2006 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by LUIS95993
I figure out how we can solve this debate. Larry (loliver here on the forums) has a Club coupe and a GT2. Maybe he can give us some insight.
Let me know what he says. That is the kind of insight I was looking for. I hope he has had the two out together to observe the differences. The "feel" can be misleading.
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02-12-2006 | 08:43 PM
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Kevin, isn't this incredible? You cite an "experience" and people disagree with your "experience?" Some people...
To all of you who disagree with my experience, please take a good look at the title of the thread: "About to be Hammered." I fully expect TT, TT-S and GT2 people to argue that the GT2 is faster. The fact is that none of you guys have any stats on the X51. Luis is the first person to make a GREAT suggestion -- ask someone with both cars. They owner of the cars may have a favorite car, and he may have an "opinion" (biased or not). He might have facts from his own side by side observation -- we'll see. These statements that some of you people make, with NOTHING to support them, amaze me.
It is NOT my intention to trash the 996 TT; TT-S or GT2, but they are "old" technology. Porsche does make improvements. That doesn't mean the X51 is faster than the GT2, but I really did have an experience with one today which I related in this thread. I sense there are a lot of 996 people who are a little touchy about their cars. I like mine too.
To all of you who disagree with my experience, please take a good look at the title of the thread: "About to be Hammered." I fully expect TT, TT-S and GT2 people to argue that the GT2 is faster. The fact is that none of you guys have any stats on the X51. Luis is the first person to make a GREAT suggestion -- ask someone with both cars. They owner of the cars may have a favorite car, and he may have an "opinion" (biased or not). He might have facts from his own side by side observation -- we'll see. These statements that some of you people make, with NOTHING to support them, amaze me.
It is NOT my intention to trash the 996 TT; TT-S or GT2, but they are "old" technology. Porsche does make improvements. That doesn't mean the X51 is faster than the GT2, but I really did have an experience with one today which I related in this thread. I sense there are a lot of 996 people who are a little touchy about their cars. I like mine too.
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02-12-2006 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Christian
I have driven several 997S's. It's a great car. I have also driven a couple of GT2's and if you guys really think there is a comparison than you are stoned IMO. The GT2 will spank a 997S, that's a fact. The only way a 997S can beat a GT2 in a straight line is if the GT2 has a really really bad driver and the 887S driver is a very good driver.
I have raced a 997S in my 965T and spanked him both from a roll and a dead stop.
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I have raced a 997S in my 965T and spanked him both from a roll and a dead stop.
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02-12-2006 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by gdctus997
Kevin, isn't this incredible? You cite an "experience" and people disagree with your "experience?" Some people...
To all of you who disagree with my experience, please take a good look at the title of the thread: "About to be Hammered." I fully expect TT, TT-S and GT2 people to argue that the GT2 is faster. The fact is that none of you guys have any stats on the X51. Luis is the first person to make a GREAT suggestion -- ask someone with both cars. They owner of the cars may have a favorite car, and he may have an "opinion" (biased or not). He might have facts from his own side by side observation -- we'll see. These statements that some of you people make, with NOTHING to support them, amaze me.
It is NOT my intention to trash the 996 TT; TT-S or GT2, but they are "old" technology. Porsche does make improvements. That doesn't mean the X51 is faster than the GT2, but I really did have an experience with one today which I related in this thread. I sense there are a lot of 996 people who are a little touchy about their cars. I like mine too.
To all of you who disagree with my experience, please take a good look at the title of the thread: "About to be Hammered." I fully expect TT, TT-S and GT2 people to argue that the GT2 is faster. The fact is that none of you guys have any stats on the X51. Luis is the first person to make a GREAT suggestion -- ask someone with both cars. They owner of the cars may have a favorite car, and he may have an "opinion" (biased or not). He might have facts from his own side by side observation -- we'll see. These statements that some of you people make, with NOTHING to support them, amaze me.
It is NOT my intention to trash the 996 TT; TT-S or GT2, but they are "old" technology. Porsche does make improvements. That doesn't mean the X51 is faster than the GT2, but I really did have an experience with one today which I related in this thread. I sense there are a lot of 996 people who are a little touchy about their cars. I like mine too.
--- Kevin
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02-12-2006 | 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by gdctus997
...Porsche GT2 Porsche 997S
3175lbs 3130lbs
456ft/lbs 320ft/lbs
462hp 381hp
There's nothing armchair or keyboard about that.
Christian
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02-12-2006 | 11:05 PM
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If the GT2 passed at 20mph, he was quite possibly in 2nd gear when the race began. If the 997 floored it in 1st, and the guy in the GT2 hesitated just a little, then planted it in 2nd, we could easily see the result described.
From an equal start, the GT2 would walk away. Not run, though. At least, not until well over 100 mph.
From an equal start, the GT2 would walk away. Not run, though. At least, not until well over 100 mph.
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02-13-2006 | 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by PMac
...From an equal start, the GT2 would walk away. Not run, though. At least, not until well over 100 mph...
--- Kevin