What's up guys, this was posted on e46fanatics by a few of the member's, actually the 997s i ust realized is owned by "StrtSwpr996" who posted a few post's down, and Mvenom's M3 from E46, both are bone stock and they had some great runs, i was impressed by the M3, Porsche clearly is faster though and both are gorgeous.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRW5y_IeOPo

Martin

 

ha fun day.. when I race Mliner thats going to be a whole different story though.

 

Just fyi, "Mliner" is a well known IDIOT amongst the M3 community.

 

Well all jokes and comments aside.. we cant deny his cars performance, although he has lost to several cars he should have beat. But that is only due to his driving skills.. (Or is it)

 

I believe its either the latter half, or his car is extremely weak lol, Sev's funny though , your car sounds awesome too BTW!

 

I think Sev's downfall was the wrong setup from the get-go.
The main thing was his software and intake which actually made him loss tremendous whp according to his latest dyno. But the direction he is going in right now, i think when he is done it will be known for being fast NA rather than slow NA.

MVenom's M3 seems to be faster than stock, it was really moving.
He knows how to drive an M3, props to him. Its good to see some people who actually know how to drive the cars they purchase.
But the Porsche is just so beautiful. Both cars are 2006 so give them both some time to open up....

nice vid!!

 

thanks. Ive seen almost all of the races he has participated in. when it comes to races with a lot of skill involved, such as from a launch or 1st gear roll, we cannot see his cars true potential. But races from a 3rd gear roll wher most of the time only involes 1 shifts, we can se that his car really does pull. I ahve yet to see his car perform with its new cams and software, so it should be even faster now.
The thing i dont get is that his 1/4 mile time has not change since his stock days, But his trap has increased by a little.

 

I dont know man, i dont want to say he cant drive, but something is up! I posted this because i can see that M3 is strong and moves real well, with a good driver. There has been so much controversy between the 2 cars, people needed to see this, M3's are very very quick cars when driven properly, i didnt have a chance to video tape when my M3 was stock, but again it was very strong and people said i could drive the damm thing, i was beating lots of more powerfull cars out there, i think that's key to getting a cars true outcome potential!

 

Yeah i know ther fast.. If Mliners car does not beat me then thats jsut pathetic and i would strongly suggest he part it out and give it to tinky winky or something.

 

The races from the launch weren't really launch races, the video clearly shows the 997S keeps rolling even before the 3rd launch. So those races aren't accurate as the 997S never launched.

 

I wouldnt say it pathetic man. your car is just faster. its that simple. I mean most of the SC'd m3s I have gotten the chance to see(stage 1, 440 crank hp package) run mostly low to mid 12's. On dragtimes.com for instance, other than the two that ran 11.972 and 11.980 at 123 and 125, both of which were stage 2+ and then the stage 1s that ran: 12.199 at 117, 12.32 at 111, 12.41 at 116, 12.43 at 119. i dont find these cars to be for the most part faster than a 997S. Yes i think they are faster, but not by too much. Considering that most of these are dynoing around 390 or so to the wheels and have gutted out some of the car, and the 997s dynos about 310 to the wheels and weights more than these cars and car run mid 12's at 112-115 from what ive seen. the advantage is def on the m3s side and i think with a good driver the 997s can keep up with most of these sc'd m3s. so give yourself some credit man, youre a good driver and have a sick car that is def faster than a fully modded NA m3.

not sure if that made ANY sense whatsoever, so i will explain. These stage 1 m3s dyno about 390 RWHP and most have weight reductions that bring them down to 3100-3200. A stock 997S dynos about 310 RWHP and weight in at about 3350, a good 150lbs heavier and not to mention the 80 or so RWHP is doesnt have compared to the M3. The best time I have ever seen for a stock 997S was in a mag and was 12.3 at 115. The best time for the SC'd m3 was 12.199 at 117. Now look at what we have here, M3-390RWHP and 3200lbs vs. Stock 997S-310 RWHP and 3350 lbs. But look at the times. 12.199@117 and 12.3@115. Now 2 MPH to me based on those stats does not make much sense, at least not to me. Def love m3s but the 997 just seems to almost defy everything.

 

I hope M3jon watches this lol. Thanks for posting.

 

It took about 7 pages, but he joined the E46fanatics thread.

 

Actually most of them have ran in the high 12's, this is due to traction mostly. They will walk a 997S easily from a roll.


Couple corrections here. The two that ran in the 11's are stage 3 cars, one had a 75 shot as well. The other was on boost only. The times are deceiving as on the highway they both really shine. One raped a stage 2 996 TT. The other Stage 3+++ B5 S4's.

The 12.1 run was actually Scott, Divexxtreme a moderator here and on M3forum as well, very knowledgable about cars in general, I agree he's a straight shooter as well and has helped me alot with info on my car. I'm suprised he hasn't chimmed in on this thread.

The 12.32 at 111 was Lee Mathews, a freak of a driver, the car was a modded N/A car, NO SC, gears, software, intake, pullies DR's and 3200 lbs. or so, completely stock exhaust though.

Both the 12.4X runs were with Stage 2 Super Chargers.

The best time is a 11.9, but the trap is in the 120's, also zero traction on that car, I saw that run in person. In the 1/4 mile the 997 def has a chance due to a far supierior launch against a stage 1 and 2, stage 3 will win, wheelspin or not.

I thought the 997S weighed 3100 lbs. the M3 weighs 3415, with some light weight mods around 3200 or so. Last night, my car lost to Allen's (Srtswpr996's), 997 2S on the highway by 2 CL's at the most and from a 2nd gear roll I even got a slight jump and was even up to third. Still a decent pull by the 997, but I was suprised I hanged with him.

Yes the 997 is unreal for what it is and it shines from a dig, and the traps are unreal, but check out this video with a bone stock M3, a High Compression M3 that ran a 12.3 at 112, and that same SC'd M3 that ran the 12.1 at 117. On the highway different story, the 997S would get destroyed, and the BHS High Comp should beat it as well, 1/4 mile comes down to the driver a highway roll tells us which car is actually faster.

http://www.e46psi.com/link/click.php...n=go&to=video9

Conditons play a roll too, I've seen a few guys run high 12's with their 997's at traps under 110, so the 12.2 and 12.3, although phenomenal, is not the norm, and handful of N/A heavily to lightly modded and 1 stock M3 have ran in the 12's too and that's not the norm.

I'm with you though, a 997 will walk a N/A M3 most of the time but a SC'd M3 is faster than a 997S and a High Compression car can beat it as well.

 

why bother to compare a modded car to a stock car?

the 997S is clearly faster in the straights and in the corners (no doubt about it) than the M3. you started modding.... who cares.