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Old 08-18-2006 | 09:53 PM
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Got a call from Rusnak today telling me that my car was ready to pick up.. I had took it in for an oil change, sqeaking clutch pedal, and the issue about how i have trouble getting into gear.

They whip out a piece of paper telling me how i have had several stg 4 over revs (7900 - 8400 rpm). And becuase of this they could not look into my shifter/tranny issue becuase i could have caused it from "abusing" the car. At this point my temper took over becuase they told me that the only way this could have happend is if i were to miss a gear, lets say going from 5th to 2nd, and thats the example they gave me. I told them that has never happend and the only time I tapped the limiter was when I was in neutral and that was caused by the diffective shifter not going into gear and cuasing me to rev to the limiter in neutral. They straight out told me that ther machine is 100% accurate and that cannot be the case..
I KNOW FOR A FACT I HAVE NOT OVERREVVED MY CAR..

I was basically arguing with a wall, they were keeping a straight face while i was getting heated. I told them we got a lawsuit on our hand sand they just said take it up with porsche at 1-800 PORSCHE..

So pissed about this ****.
 
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Old 08-18-2006 | 11:05 PM
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Don't bother with the lawyers. Only thing that will happen is the lawyers will get your money.

Take the car somewhere else for another opinion.

If then you get a different result, great. If not, get your DSM involved and demand a face to face when he's in town. That's about it. You can beat the service manager all day long, but if he stands firm, it's a pissing contest.

Also posting about over revs on these forums won't help you when they see it, and trust me, they will see it.
 
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Old 08-18-2006 | 11:24 PM
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I wouldnt argue with anyone if i actually did abuse the car, the thing is I didnt over rev or abuse it in anyway.
 
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Old 08-18-2006 | 11:32 PM
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Sage advice from Eric...one question though - have you ever valeted your car or has anyone every driven it w/out you in it ?
If your answer is "yes" to either of those questions then you cannot be sure the car has never been over-reved.
Lastly - what does over-reving the motor have to do with the tranny??? If anything, a mechanical over-rev as you describe (5th to 2nd) would result in bent valves minimum, if not a spun main bearing - most likely not tranny damage.
Sounds like they got an inch and are taking a mile...sorry to hear that...
 
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Old 08-18-2006 | 11:42 PM
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nope, no one has ever driven the car besides for me and my dad. I mean I only have 1900 miles on the car. they said the only way we can open up the tranny is with your permission, and if we find somthing wrong that could have been cuased by no abuse by the driver then well cover it, but if they see that nothing is wrong or that something went wrong from driver abuse they charge me. just to drop the tranny costs around 2400.
I mean they drove it around and said that the car felt jsut fine and nothing seems to be wrong with it, but i jsut cant get ovewr the fact that they are accusing me of over revving the car.
 

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Old 08-18-2006 | 11:51 PM
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edit just saw this:

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...ad.php?t=56025

I would take Eric's advice and not post this on a public forum.

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How fragile is this car?
I was doing some spirited driving tonight/ Racing.. and every single time i tryed speed shifting into 2nd, that ***** would not go in and i would bounce off the limiter every time.. What the hell is up with this. Can this car not take an occasional brute force...
 

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arent you the one that has videos up everywhere street racing and continually missing 2nd gear. maybe thats where u over-revved?
 
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Old 08-19-2006 | 01:44 AM
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arent you the one that has videos up everywhere street racing and continually missing 2nd gear. maybe thats where u over-revved?

But I have another question; how can you hit 8400 rpm's missing an upshift ? Basically it's like nailing it in neutral...bouncing it off the limiter. The only way I can possible see hitting 8000+ is from a missed DOWNshift, ie. mechanical over-rev money shift.
Clearly from the streetracing posts there seems to be more to the story...you'd be suprised how fast these motors can hit 8 grand + and you never know it.
A testament to the 911...
 

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Old 08-19-2006 | 03:48 AM
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But I have another question; how can you hit 8400 rpm's missing an upshift ? Basically it's like nailing it in neutral...bouncing it off the limiter. The only way I can possible see hitting 8000+ is from a missed DOWNshift, ie. mechanical over-rev money shift.
Clearly from the streetracing posts there seems to be more to the story...you'd be suprised how fast these motors can hit 8 grand + and you never know it.
A testament to the 911...
I have nothing to hide.. I told them that i missed gears do the the defective shifter.. It jsut revved up in neutral, they told me that it is impossible to get to stg 4 overrev by just revving it up to the limiter in neutral... They said the the only way that could have happend was from a money shift.
 
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What am I missing here. Isn't there a revv limiter that is supposed to protect against damage to the engine or tranny if the driver exceeds the revv limit?

BTW, this thread is also a testimonial to the importance of maintaining excellent relations with your service dept.
 
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Old 08-19-2006 | 06:20 PM
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What am I missing here. Isn't there a revv limiter that is supposed to protect against damage to the engine or tranny if the driver exceeds the revv limit?

BTW, this thread is also a testimonial to the importance of maintaining excellent relations with your service dept.
Yes, exactly. The rev limiter is there to stop people from destroying or damaging their engines.
 
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Yes, exactly. The rev limiter is there to stop people from destroying or damaging their engines.
The rev limiter does not protect you from over revs with a missed downshift.
 
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Old 08-19-2006 | 07:37 PM
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The rev limiter does not protect you from over revs with a missed downshift.
Yes, thats true. But strtswpr996 stated, he did not downshift from 4-2, or 5-3, etc. He said he was in neutral because he could not get into 2nd gear. Therefore, the rev limited, which he said he hit, would have protected him from the disasterous over revs that would be caused by improper downshifting.
 
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Old 08-19-2006 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by PorscheC4
Yes, thats true. But strtswpr996 stated, he did not downshift from 4-2, or 5-3, etc. He said he was in neutral because he could not get into 2nd gear. Therefore, the rev limited, which he said he hit, would have protected him from the disasterous over revs that would be caused by improper downshifting.
Exactly, so if he didn't mechanically over-rev the motor, then how did the dealer pull an 8400rpm zinger ??
 


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