Deal breaker, no. Nice feature. However, I'm not on the side of keeping it "on" all the time. Throttle response is noticibly quicker, too quick in my opinion for the daily comute. I find my starts a little more jerky if I'm not "thinking" about the shift when I have the "sport" button lit up.

 

Maybe you need to drive a little harder. Its a porsche not a minivan...

I'm joking, but the point is that the importance of "sport" anything options depends on personal preferences and driving styles. Drive the car xtra hard or on the track then SC is probably essential. Use it as a daily commuter to get around in then you probably find it a waste of money. Thats why they are optional.

 

On that note, if any of you guys have the Sport Chrono package with PASM and PCM, does that go away when you install aftermarket coilovers, like PSS9s or Motrons?

 

While it's good to get some feedback on the board about this. I don't think you will get a definate answer to your question here. people who has it will swear by it and those who don't can care less about it. It's just human nature to defend their own choices. The only way to get the right answer for you is to test drive both setup and decide for yourself.

 

I think it only matters if youre optioning your own car since youre paying for it. But if youre buying a preowned one that already depreciated and can get it same price with the option , I'd go with the one with the sport/chrono, I can already tell the importance of it, since youre hesitating to buy one without it jmho So my suggestion is to just buy the most loaded 997 you can find, no such thing as I dont really need this and that, i always hear it ,very annoying

 

I consider it a must have option.

 

i think they should make it standard on the S.
after much review, i think it's a no brainer.

 

It was the back-to-back drive that confirmed that 99% of the time it is simply a false sense of additional power. BMW had the same throttle re-map feature on the E46 M3 in the form of the "Power" button, only they did not charge for it. The other features (slight PASM/PSM changes - unneeded on my daily commute; programmability - my dealer does it for free) just didn't warrant the expense.

And to the person who said it was required for resale, you should verify your statistics. At the time of purchase of my car, less than 50% had been sold w/SC - so it is obviously not mandatory.

ACTUALLY, most (I would estimate 3/4) of your hard core track junkies prefer to NOT have the SC, and it takes a linear throttle map and totally throws it off. Instead of having smooth smooth throttle tip in, you get the harder-to-manipulate overly quick jump to around 70-80% throttle. Very Risky was right on when he mentioned the problem with being smooth with the throttle when your trying to be easy on the pedal - a requirement on the track.

 

Complete waste of money. I have it and wouldn't order it again.

It doesn't make the car any faster - it's a $920 trick that fools your brain. If all you do is street race then it probably impresses your friends so I guess is worth $920.

Reality is for track you have to develop two sets of "muscle memory" when when you switch between the two settings, which means at the track you have to relearn how to balance the car and relearn how to be smooth with heel and toe changes - not very smart. On top of which the more aggressive mapping makes it harder to balance the car at the limit.

You can drive the car with PSM off as the limits are so high without risk so why do you need this intermediate PSM setting?

The memory extras in PCM are not worth it. Most people, unless they have accute memory loss, can adjust radio stations and HVAC controls without the need of something doing it for them.

And finally the Wart is FUGLY.

If Porsche had a setup like Ferrari's with electronic diffs etc. then the "manettino" would be practical and useful, but as it is the Wart is neither a track aid, nor a performance aid, nor does it add anything aesthetically to the car.

But if you still choose to spend $920 on it then that's your choice...

 

makes sense. i guess thats why guys really dont like turbos for the track. and yea i too wish it was standard fare for the 911. actually i think a LOT of optional stuff should be standard considering the price of these cars.

 

Thats completely absurd. Its not that touchy and far from non-linear. I am a hard core track junky and any decent driver would have no problem with throttle modulation. This and the muscle memory comment are nothing but regurgitated internet nonsense perputuated by people with little to no actual personal experience simply to justify a point.

Fine if you don't use it, desire it, or like it, nobody is forcing you and your entitled to your own opinions. But please don't make up stuff just to justify yourselves. Any race driver that cannot smoothly modulate the throttle response with SC on or who needs to develop additional "muscle memory" that gets confussed when switching it on and off (why would you do this anyway??) really has bigger worries than SC when driving. Any moderately decent driver can jump from car to car (or SC or non-sc) and adapt to the change in milli-seconds.... do you think a race car has the exact same throttle response every time its driven? We change maps for every track on our pro cars.... give me a break.

and its not fake or false power...the throttle is open more at a given rpm or load level, and opens faster...its a different powerband with power in different places. The peak numbers might be the same but the graph looks quite a bit different at any given position.

dw

 

This is exactly why I said "most" and not "all". So it fits your driving style - big deal. Your statements of "any decent driver would have no problem with throttle modulation" and "Any moderately decent driver can jump from car to car (or SC or non-sc) and adapt to the change in milli-seconds" implies that a) you think that you can, and b) you think than anyone who cannot has skill inferior to yours (indicated by you assigning a skill level to the ability).

Everyone has their opinion. You have yours, I have mine. Browse Rennlist or Renntech a while and see how many track drivers agree. 6-speedonline has as larger percentage of show vs. go owners (demonstrated by the larger percentage of threads on wheels, body kits, and other non-performance topics) than the Renn* forums, which is why I think you'll find more support for the SC here than there.

Nothing wrong with either choice, just don't presume to assign levels of skill to whether or not people can/choose to adapt to a feature that amounts to a throttle remapping.

 

by the way i walked you so hard in my antique 996, you must have forgot to activate your dash clock the day we ran on I-4

 

Activate Wart Drive Scotty

 

Good for you. I stand by my comment and my experience in using it. If your experience is different so be it. You might want to re-read the other posts though: you're missing some if the nuances of what we were saying.

Cheers!