997S Engine Blown!
#31
Originally Posted by Chris from Cali
The two routes I am considering are a full Fabspeed/AWE/Champion F77 NA setup or a RUF Kompressor conversion. I have to buy the engagement ring this year, so the 911 gets the love next year.
just remember that the 911 will love you forever no mater what or who u do can't say the same about the fiance'
#32
I just picked up my Supercharged S.I bet it needs some miles for the ECU to reconfigure so i believe in the next days i will be feeling more power.One issue i was worried about is the Oil Temp.It is working at 110 degres Celsium in normal mode and it almost hits 120 when i step on it for a lot of miles.
Is this regular?
Do i need a Oil Cooler?What do you guys suggest??
Thanks......
Is this regular?
Do i need a Oil Cooler?What do you guys suggest??
Thanks......
#33
you shouldn't need really any time to feel the power. they reflashed your ecu to match the larger injectors didn't they? if so, you've got the new programming and you should be good to go.
how are you monitoring oil temp?
how are you monitoring oil temp?
#34
Hey Dog.Thanks for the reply
I was just enjoing my Ride a few moments ago until suddently i felt something like Safe mode in the car and the Check ENGINE LIGHT went on.I was a little bit scared so i went further on the street and i turn the engine off.When i restarted the engine the Check was off but in a few miles there it was again with the gas cutting me off in the 3rd.I was spanking the damm thing all day long and nothing like this happened.Maybe Air-Flow Meter?Maybe not enough fuel(i replaced injectors,the was installed properly)?Maybe bad fuel(the car was sitting in the garage for over a month...)Oil Temp was in normal condition.I left the car alone for tonight and i will test it tomorow.
DD please Help.
Thanks in advace....
I was just enjoing my Ride a few moments ago until suddently i felt something like Safe mode in the car and the Check ENGINE LIGHT went on.I was a little bit scared so i went further on the street and i turn the engine off.When i restarted the engine the Check was off but in a few miles there it was again with the gas cutting me off in the 3rd.I was spanking the damm thing all day long and nothing like this happened.Maybe Air-Flow Meter?Maybe not enough fuel(i replaced injectors,the was installed properly)?Maybe bad fuel(the car was sitting in the garage for over a month...)Oil Temp was in normal condition.I left the car alone for tonight and i will test it tomorow.
DD please Help.
Thanks in advace....
#35
I had a simular problem with my newly installed EVO supercharger. The first week it happened every day in lowerer gears. It has not happened as frequently this week, but it is still happening. We contacted EVO and they do not know what it is. Any ideas DD
As a side note, we had to wait several extra days for the (new) flash to be uploaded by EVO because it was not ready. I also have never received a check engine light and there are no system errors that show up.
As a side note, we had to wait several extra days for the (new) flash to be uploaded by EVO because it was not ready. I also have never received a check engine light and there are no system errors that show up.
Last edited by hjacobs2000; 04-14-2007 at 10:49 PM.
#36
Is your check engine light flashing or solid? If it's solid, not usually a big deal. Flashing is much more serious.
If you're losing power, sounds like it's going into safe mode and the car is probably retarding the timing. Just guessing but my guess would be some sort of air fuel ratio problem since you're only getting this under sustained boost. I also run a zeitronix.com air fuel/boost gauge in my car for just such reasons and I highly suggest getting one.
First thing I would do is get a CEL reader and some software that will monitor the onboard sensors. I use the autoenginuity (spelling?) software OBD2 package. This will save you a lot of headaches and will make it easier to diagnose and clear the CEL's.
Nikos, are you referring to water temp or oil temp? My US car did not come with an oil temp gauge.
Who did the installs on your cars guys?
If you're losing power, sounds like it's going into safe mode and the car is probably retarding the timing. Just guessing but my guess would be some sort of air fuel ratio problem since you're only getting this under sustained boost. I also run a zeitronix.com air fuel/boost gauge in my car for just such reasons and I highly suggest getting one.
First thing I would do is get a CEL reader and some software that will monitor the onboard sensors. I use the autoenginuity (spelling?) software OBD2 package. This will save you a lot of headaches and will make it easier to diagnose and clear the CEL's.
Nikos, are you referring to water temp or oil temp? My US car did not come with an oil temp gauge.
Who did the installs on your cars guys?
#37
The install was made by a guy who has made another 3 cars here in Greece,his name is Mike.
I was refering to Oil Temp.The Car is 997 Carrera S and has Oil Temp and Oil Pressure Gauge.
My Check engine Light at the start was Flashing and the it turned solid.I contacted Mike Myers and he told me it was propably bad sparks and that the car was misfiring.This Problem occurs mainly at 4500 to 7000 rpm.Below that the car runs perfectly fine but stil i got the light solid on.After i find out the Code of the engine failure i wil contact him again for more assistance.The thing is that i have already replaced my Sparks with a colder and more competetive set.I will give it a go again today with new fuel, i really hope i will not have any problems.....
I was refering to Oil Temp.The Car is 997 Carrera S and has Oil Temp and Oil Pressure Gauge.
My Check engine Light at the start was Flashing and the it turned solid.I contacted Mike Myers and he told me it was propably bad sparks and that the car was misfiring.This Problem occurs mainly at 4500 to 7000 rpm.Below that the car runs perfectly fine but stil i got the light solid on.After i find out the Code of the engine failure i wil contact him again for more assistance.The thing is that i have already replaced my Sparks with a colder and more competetive set.I will give it a go again today with new fuel, i really hope i will not have any problems.....
Last edited by NikosFindas; 04-15-2007 at 02:28 AM.
#38
Today when i started the engine the Check was on!
I change the fuel and when i tested the car and when i hit 5000 rpm with boost i felt the car going on safe mode and the check was flashing.
I really dont understand the car at low speeeds in low boost revs runs with no problems and when it revs i have those problems.And keep in mind that few hours ago the Car was SUPERB!!!!It was runing like hell!!!I am feeling so sad and i just know this will destroy at least my weekend.
Could it be Sparks?ECU problem?Air-Flow Meter Problem?
I change the fuel and when i tested the car and when i hit 5000 rpm with boost i felt the car going on safe mode and the check was flashing.
I really dont understand the car at low speeeds in low boost revs runs with no problems and when it revs i have those problems.And keep in mind that few hours ago the Car was SUPERB!!!!It was runing like hell!!!I am feeling so sad and i just know this will destroy at least my weekend.
Could it be Sparks?ECU problem?Air-Flow Meter Problem?
#39
i still stay it's an air fuel issue. of course i'm only guessing. if you have new spark plugs (which is recommended when you do this install) and it runs fine at lower rpms, sounds more like an air fuel issue. maybe it's not getting enough fuel when your boosting and that is causing the CEL. a flashing CEL is a bad thing. first thing you need to do is get that CEL read. either get a reader or take it down to an auto parts store. they'll usually do it for free. i don't think it's your MAF. when that goes (been there done that) the cars runs like **** at any rpm. remember, at low rpms under normal throttle, the car is receiving very little or no boost at all. i have a boost guauge in my car. i've driven for hours at a time without ever generating any positive boost and mostly running a vacuum. get that CEL read asap.
#40
Ok, I had mine done at Porsche of Naples. It was the 12th one they did, but the first 997 tiptronic as my 997 tiptronic was one of the first 3 EVO TIP super chargers done anywhere. I am still have random problems with sputtering in low gears and I have no cel on and no errors. Once i get going past 40 no problems at all. Very Strange. I am ordering the Auto Enginuity OBD II to check it. I can't tell if it is a transmission issue or a air fuel issue. Mike Myers stated it may be my new fabspeed headers, but that does not make any sense. I wonerding if the tip flash was not ready for prime time? Any ideas DD?
Last edited by hjacobs2000; 04-17-2007 at 01:54 PM.
#41
Originally Posted by NikosFindas
I really dont get it.I thought the 3.8 Carrera S is making 452 at the wheels and have 18% drivetrain power loss.What i see here is 417 at the flywheel.Why did you Dyno the car in 4th gear and not 5th?The car should make at least 450 whp.
My kit just arrived in the Airport of Athens but because of the Easter time here in Greece i am going to have it in my hands in Thersday.Will post pics during installation and a few videos.
My kit just arrived in the Airport of Athens but because of the Easter time here in Greece i am going to have it in my hands in Thersday.Will post pics during installation and a few videos.
Wouldn't a higher gear put less power down because it's not multiplying the output of the engine as much as a lower gear?
#43
Originally Posted by hjacobs2000
Ok, I had mine done at Porsche of Naples. It was the 12th one they did, but the first 997 tiptronic as my 997 tiptronic was one of the first 3 EVO TIP super chargers done anywhere. I am still have random problems with sputtering in low gears and I have no cel on and no errors. Once i get going past 40 no problems at all. Very Strange. I am ordering the Auto Enginuity OBD II to check it. I can't tell if it is a transmission issue or a air fuel issue. Mike Myers stated it may be my new fabspeed headers, but that does not make any sense. I wonerding if the tip flash was not ready for prime time? Any ideas DD?
#44
The problem was misfiring in 1,2,3 Cylinder.I spoke with Mike Myers and he told me it was either Bad Spark Plugs,Coil Plugs,Air Flow Meter or Vacum Lines.When I first got my car from the installation my first impressions was good.After a few miles of testing it was just great and was running like hell.This means the car has no Software problem with the ECU Unit.I have replaced the Sparks During installation with Denso Colder ones.The Air Flow Meter reads perfectly because i checked it with diagnostics through OBD port.Vacum Lines Ckecked!This Leads me that the problem shoud be Bad Coils.I will replace them and get back with more info.Thanks again.
#45
Finally i got it.It was Bad Coils.I Replaced them and the car is doing fine.Only one little problem.At 6000 Rpm some times i get an instant CEL wich i just cant read with the Diagnistocs.The ECU doesnt keep it in his memory.I checked the Fuel Pressure and i saw that from 3.8 Bar that the car is working at 6k , it drops at 3.5 Bar maybe less.So my thoughts is, the fuel delivery isnt enough.Should i install a Aftermarket Fuel Pressure Regulator - maybe a Bigger Fuel Pump?Thanks for the help Dog.
Last edited by NikosFindas; 04-20-2007 at 06:12 AM.