Ranking the exhausts out there by "loudness"...
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04-16-2007, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by mdrums
hummm....so the consensus this week is AWE is louder than Fabspeed? Back in July last year everyone said Fab was way louder on this and other forums.
Did AWE change something in there mufflers?
Did AWE change something in there mufflers?
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04-16-2007, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by hdsr09
Hmmm... SO my preliminary slotting of exhausts is as follows, 1 being loudest and the last being most "stock" sounding (aka. crappy), based on what I've "searched" on:
1) Fabspeed Muffler Bypass Pipes
2) AWE
3) Fabspeed
4) Agency Power
5) Tubi
6) PSE
7) OEM Carrera S
Can anyone who is "in the know" refine my list and/or add to it?
Please keep in mind this list is for mufflers that are compatible with OEM Porsche Exhaust Tips!
1) Fabspeed Muffler Bypass Pipes
2) AWE
3) Fabspeed
4) Agency Power
5) Tubi
6) PSE
7) OEM Carrera S
Can anyone who is "in the know" refine my list and/or add to it?
Please keep in mind this list is for mufflers that are compatible with OEM Porsche Exhaust Tips!
Do any of these besides PSE have the on/off switch?
inquiring minds want to know
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04-16-2007, 07:26 PM
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I know it is all based on personal opinion, but if there is a general consensus that can be reached then that would be "good enough" for me... I just want to see, generally speaking, which exhaust/mufflers for 997 Carrera's is "the loudest" besides the muffler bypass pipes...
Originally Posted by Dave07997S
I don't think there is a consensus on this....just some heresay.
Dave
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#34
04-16-2007, 08:47 PM
Originally Posted by kauai_diver
Do any of these besides PSE have the on/off switch? inquiring minds want to know
inquiring minds want to know
#35
04-16-2007, 09:21 PM
Been away several days on a trip - no I'm not changing my feelings on the street manners of the AWE system, just suggesting that it's not quiet - it's loud but that you can control that if you are careful.
#36
04-16-2007, 09:48 PM
Originally Posted by hdsr09
I have Evosport headers, no cats, a Borla Midpipe, and an Eisenhaus Meisterschaft Titanium Exhaust on my E46 M3.
Does anyone know how my M3 setup would compare in sound to a 997 with headers & Fabspeed Muffler Bypass Pipes, and also compared to a 997 with headers & aftermarket mufflers?
Does anyone know how my M3 setup would compare in sound to a 997 with headers & Fabspeed Muffler Bypass Pipes, and also compared to a 997 with headers & aftermarket mufflers?
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04-16-2007, 11:39 PM
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Well that's good.... my AWE system is on order and Mike@AWE says shipping should begin inside the next 2 wks.
Ron have you had an opportunity to hear a Fabspeed car? If so, how would it compare to your AWE car?
Ron have you had an opportunity to hear a Fabspeed car? If so, how would it compare to your AWE car?
Originally Posted by RonCT
Been away several days on a trip - no I'm not changing my feelings on the street manners of the AWE system, just suggesting that it's not quiet - it's loud but that you can control that if you are careful.
#40
04-17-2007, 11:38 AM
Originally Posted by mishref
AWE is not that much louder than PSE (unplugged)
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04-17-2007, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by raffi
I have only heard the PSE, AWE mufflers and stock in person. I also drove the car with the mufflers off to hear what the bypass would sound like.
This is what I think.
1) Fabspeed Muffler Bypass Pipes(loudest, unrefined)
2) PSE (high pitched, raspy, i dont know how to describe but it sounds fake, "electronic-like"
3) Tubi from the clip I saw of theStig (on 6speed)
4) Fabspeed sounds close to my AWE mufflers from the sound clips (both of these are extremely tame with a definite change in note but not much louder until 6K rpm
5) Agency Power, schnell etc. probably close to the AWE and fabspeed
6) stock
This is what I think.
1) Fabspeed Muffler Bypass Pipes(loudest, unrefined)
2) PSE (high pitched, raspy, i dont know how to describe but it sounds fake, "electronic-like"
3) Tubi from the clip I saw of theStig (on 6speed)
4) Fabspeed sounds close to my AWE mufflers from the sound clips (both of these are extremely tame with a definite change in note but not much louder until 6K rpm
5) Agency Power, schnell etc. probably close to the AWE and fabspeed
6) stock
Maybe i'll connect the PSE to my Bose system and have the exhaust amplified thru the Bose...
#42
04-17-2007, 12:03 PM
thats what it sounds like to me... they should have a pse volume switch, not just on/off so you could have better control of the sound, change the bass, treble etc. i thought my hearing is screwed up from all the loud music i listen to so i had my ears checked last week. the only time i get confirmation that my mufflers are sound good is when i get random compliments from
"non-porsche" people
"non-porsche" people
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04-17-2007, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by JCS
Per factory setup, with the PSE activated,the PSE bypass valves are supposed to close (quiet) when you step on the gas aggressively below ~ 50 mph and open again when you ease off the throttle ( you can definitely hear it when they open-close ). Above 50 ,they stay open (loud)
If you unplug the orange electrical connection to the solenoid valve , you disable the factory computer control and the exhaust pipe bypass valves will always stay open (loud) regardless if the PSE is activated or not ,either via Sport chrono or the PSE dash switch .
If you unplug the orange electrical connection to the solenoid valve , you disable the factory computer control and the exhaust pipe bypass valves will always stay open (loud) regardless if the PSE is activated or not ,either via Sport chrono or the PSE dash switch .
JCS said with the PSE activated (I'm assuming that means the button is ON?), the valves close when you step on the gas below 50 mph and open after 50 mph.
So if the valves are open by default, what happens when you have the button OFF.... Do the valves stay closed full-time?
And if you unplug the orange plug, it will stay always open (loud) ?
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04-17-2007, 01:02 PM
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What was your opinion on quality of sound between the two? I know, that's a purely subjective Q&A, but I'm curious.
Loudness is about the only objective aspect of exhaust sound that's measurable
Loudness is about the only objective aspect of exhaust sound that's measurable
Originally Posted by E55AMG
I drove AWE and Fabspeed's cars back to back and I thought FS was louder than AWE.