Oh lord! That thing is beautiful! Great deal for sure!

I knew you bought one because you mentioned in the first pg of this thread lol

 

My first 2 Vipers (2005 and 2009) were modified and raced. Never had any problems as their engines were pretty much bullet proof. Not common to have engine problems in any generation of Viper. When my '05 vert was stock it edged out a 2006 vert Gallardo in the 1/4. Stock my '09 blew it away. My '13 GTS is in a whole other league. Another month or so the tracks in the northeast will open. Can't arrive soon enough.

 

Are they gonna come out with a SRT Viper ACR? That will be sick...

 

No I'm not comparing a minivan to a viper. The only reason I brought it up was that it's a Dodge product that has lots of issues. I'm sorry I have no desires to ever own a Dodge.

 

Yes, but in all likelihood a convertible will be introduced first

 

Gallardo! I wish I had your problem

 

The Viper is made by SRT (a little different than Dodge). Not like it's the same assembly lines, etc...

Please quantify your prejudice. I'm curious.

That's like comparing a GMC truck to a Caddy to a Stingray. Or a Ford GT to a Fusion. How do you draw a parallel from normal Dodge products to how the new Viper is designed/engineered/assembled?

 

My first-year 2006 Dodge Charger SRT-8 had a few minor problems, but was an excellent, high-quality car for the roughly 75,000 miles I owned it from new. The powertrain & suspension was excellent, as were the electronics.

While many may judge the interior design, the long-term quality, fit, wear and feel of the controls was top-notch.

Personally I would not judge a newer Viper because it is a "Dodge".

 

Gotta be kidding me lol. Comparing old Minivans and Daytona's... Daytona hasn't been made in 20 years lol. So b/c of that that makes Viper unreliable? It's not even produced on same assembly lines even today as their other models since it's mainly hand built. The Viper has been solid and reliable since day 1, sure some had issues that's going to happen with any manufactured thing whether autos, or tvs, or phones etc as no company operates at 100%. But compared to competitors the Viper is almost like a Honda, you won't find any other car in this league that's as reliable when pushed hard (I mean guys still track and drive these cars with over 100k no prob, not like people with other cars saying I put 15k on with no problem... k' come back when you add about another 90k+ with constant track use thrown in ) b/c their so simple, and the engine is bullet proof and way under stressed, yes Leo had trouble with his cars that's some really bad luck there twice in a row...plenty have also blown engines left and right in stock P-cars (we even had motor replaced in a 996 as lot did due to RMS and other problems).

When I sold my 01' with close to 70k miles, that included tons and tons of hard track use primarily at Sebring and VIR, not 1 issue besides normal maintenance (of which is pretty cheap on this car for this performance as well). Super easy to work on a lot of stuff on your own as well. As a whole Vipers are generally rock solid and reliable. Extremely rare to even have a minor issue.

Be interesting to see what SRT has up their sleeve for the ACR and how pricing would be with what the pricing is now for SRT/TA/GTS. Plus the TA has already proven what it's capable of and how sorted it is, beating out cars running much better tires inc the ZR1 running Sport Cups. When the TA was fitted with SC it just destroyed the ZR1 on track by about 2.5 seconds per lap, per lap... ridiculously fast, and shows how much tires make a difference. SRT needs to get their act together on tires vs the Corsas the Viper is shod with now, I mean there's not even an option for better tire package. Meanwhile GM has the Michelin contract for Sport Cups/tires, and somehow even got new Pirelli Trofeo Rs on the new Z28. How they got Trofeo Rs on a Z28 1st when SRT is contracted with Pirelli now is beyond me lol. ACR better come with Trofeo Rs.

Hey hey now, bought wifey a new Fusion SE 2.0t. Like our mini 4dr Aston... mean Fusion , seriously though car kicks *** in that class lol. Made the Camry feel like a pile of **** in quality and drive lol

 

LOLOLOL!!!!

Minivans = GARBAGE
Stratus = GARBAGE
Daytona = GARBAGE

Congrats on wasting money on garbage. I don't like cheap Dodge passenger cars, either. Always been a GM guy myself. I even created LS1Tech.com if you need a reference on my GM background.

But, I love the Viper. You would be ignorant to base your opinions on Vipers on the GARBAGE cars you've mentioned. Not even close, sorry. Had you owned a Cavalier, maybe a Lumina, or maybe a Berretta, you'd probably be saying C7 Corvettes and CTS-Vs are bad quality, too. Just as ignorant.

Leo, stock Gallardos are not fast. Vipers are comfortable for average sized humans, agreed not comfy for 280 lb people.

 

Actually the Corvette is a solid well made car. Cadillac Cts-Vs are indeed awesome. The Dodge Viper does look sharp and it's of course an exotic car. Just wasn't sure what the quality is like of the latest ones. The Dodges I had mentioned were of course in a different league than the Viper. Again I'm sorry to be bringing anything up about my Dad and brother having bad luck with there Dodge cars which are daily drivers. I just worry about the quality of the Viper even if I shouldn't.

 

I like the looks of the new Viper but they keep losing value... i just saw anuther NEW GTS 2013 going from $135 to $117! why is that? and there is a lot of Srt Viper with 200-1000 in the used cars section... i think some people are no happy and they are trading it with very low miles....

http://www.koonschrysler.net/new/Dod...be312a8ff6.htm

 

Lol I agree...

You are GM guy (me too I live Chevys) I'm just thinking about trading my Gallardo for a C6 Z06 and get the CF wide bodykit + supercharger!

FWI I don't like the C7 Vette.....

 

 

LeoLambo, that is certainly NOT the norm. Vipers engines are bullet proof. My 05 and my 09 were driven VERY HARD and no issues at all! Sorry to hear you had issues.