Next Car V12 Vantage or R8 V10?
#1
Next Car V12 Vantage or R8 V10?
Should my next car be a 2010 Audi R8 V-10 or the 2011 V12 Vantage. The price spread is $40K which is my reasoning. Money does matter.
$120K vs. $160K
I'm thinking the Audi as a stop gap before my V12... baby steps right?
Your thoughts?
$120K vs. $160K
I'm thinking the Audi as a stop gap before my V12... baby steps right?
Your thoughts?
#2
The R8 is an amazing car but the looks just aren't there for me. I also am not a fan of the interior. It looks just like all the other Audi cars and doesn't feel special to me. The fit and finish are great but lack "special" to me.
#4
I've driven the V8 R8, not the V10. Great car, and very much an Audi -- this is both good and bad. For me, it was more of a negative since I wanted something that always feels special, and the R8's Audiness made it feel a bit more like a "normal" car. The Aston is always hugely special. I would certainly choose a V12V over an R8 (actually, I prefer my V8V to either R8), but as a car to own between your V8V and a V12V, well, that might be fun...
#6
+1 in the styling dept. IMHO, R8 will look dated in short order. Vantage lines = timeless. But if you plan on a short trophy marriage followed by a swap to the next one this should not be a concern.
#7
There was a thread on the lamborghini forum where someone picked up a v10 R8 over a 560-4 and immediately regretted his decision. The big issue was that the R8, although a great car, was lacking some of the intangibles of the 560-4.
I agree with some of the above comments - drive both and you'll have your answer.
I agree with some of the above comments - drive both and you'll have your answer.
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#8
I was planning on getting an R8 but was going to wait until they came out with the update this year. Then I heard about the TT-RS. Just as fast, about 100k less. Saw one for sale and bought it. As much as I like the way the R8 looks, (and I have driven a V10 version) I just don't think the cost addition is worth the change in looks (a pro and a con) and a wider seat. Part of the problem with the R8 is that it is prices as a super car but is very drive able and not crazy fast. This has led some super car buyers to be bored with it on their first drive.
#9
I just drove an R8 V10 six speed last week. I have driven both the V8 and V10 auto and the six speed is much better. The problem is it just doesn't do anything for me. It drives ok and I am sure it is a quality product but it has a very plastic interior, the power delivery is not smooth and it just has no sense of occasion. The list was $153 for a loaded car which is good value but not very interesting. As you can buy used V12s in the same price range I would say you will just have to drive them both to see if you are an Audi or Aston guy.
#10
An R8 V10 with APR software (570 + hp) and an exhaust system is an amazing machine. Especially with that near 9000rpm redline. Stock they are thrilling, but still heavy and honestly could "feel" like they could be faster.
If it were my money, i'd still take the V12V. That car does't really need anything but a driver
If it were my money, i'd still take the V12V. That car does't really need anything but a driver
#11
My best friend has an R8 V10, and I have driven it on occasion. I have a TT RS and an Aston Martin V12 (also had a 4.7 V8). So I have driven the cars, and I'm a fan of both Marques.
The R8 V10 is a very serious piece of kit. When you hammer it (especially on a track) it is monstrously fast (I drove the six speed). It has excellent steering and brakes. The higher spec carbon interiors and piano trimmed exterior cars look great.
It does feel special with that big engine visible out back, and everything works very well. But I found it lacks a raw edge to it and it is not as opulent as the Vantage V12. It is soooo capable and in some ways refined that it could feel too smoothed out for a Vantage guy.
Tooling around town it's very calm and quiet. Too quiet for me, this is true of all Audi's. They just don't get exhaust notes the way Aston and the Italians do.
The car is very capable and well finished, but it's not "bespoke" feeling. Even though some press feel it is better built. I don't and I have had 5 Audi's.
The TT RS is only in the same class on paper or the track. It IS a seriously fast car, but you have to upgrade the tires, the brakes, the Haldex unit etc... Before it gets anywhere near the spec that is standard on the other cars. I have a ton of fun in that car and have reviewed it on these pages. It's a very practical choice.
The V12 Vantage is the best choice here for a road car. It has the best exhaust note, though it is too quiet in the cabin compared to the V8. I think the materials and finish are so much better. Just look at the R8's splitter and diffuser. Compare that to the V12 equipment.
The V12 interior is far more bespoke feeling and does not feel like another car. You get the beautiful swan doors, the great seats, the B&O sound system. I think the V12 is far better looking, even though I'm a fan of the R8. it has the more complex shape and I sure its far more enjoyable to wash.
On the road the V12 is just more fun. The Audi is faster and car, and in slick conditions better, but it has less soul to me. . I prefer the V12 brakes. The R8 brakes did not stand out enough for me to remember, even though both are equally good at stopping. The Vantage has more grunt and seems to rev more freely, But honestly they are both great motors. I just wish the R8 had more aggression to it. For me the vantage appears to egg you on. Begging you to go faster. Even. When you are driving around town the V12 rewards you with a fantastic burble every time you decelerate.
The good news is, you can't make a bad choice. Both are beyond good cars.
The R8 V10 is a very serious piece of kit. When you hammer it (especially on a track) it is monstrously fast (I drove the six speed). It has excellent steering and brakes. The higher spec carbon interiors and piano trimmed exterior cars look great.
It does feel special with that big engine visible out back, and everything works very well. But I found it lacks a raw edge to it and it is not as opulent as the Vantage V12. It is soooo capable and in some ways refined that it could feel too smoothed out for a Vantage guy.
Tooling around town it's very calm and quiet. Too quiet for me, this is true of all Audi's. They just don't get exhaust notes the way Aston and the Italians do.
The car is very capable and well finished, but it's not "bespoke" feeling. Even though some press feel it is better built. I don't and I have had 5 Audi's.
The TT RS is only in the same class on paper or the track. It IS a seriously fast car, but you have to upgrade the tires, the brakes, the Haldex unit etc... Before it gets anywhere near the spec that is standard on the other cars. I have a ton of fun in that car and have reviewed it on these pages. It's a very practical choice.
The V12 Vantage is the best choice here for a road car. It has the best exhaust note, though it is too quiet in the cabin compared to the V8. I think the materials and finish are so much better. Just look at the R8's splitter and diffuser. Compare that to the V12 equipment.
The V12 interior is far more bespoke feeling and does not feel like another car. You get the beautiful swan doors, the great seats, the B&O sound system. I think the V12 is far better looking, even though I'm a fan of the R8. it has the more complex shape and I sure its far more enjoyable to wash.
On the road the V12 is just more fun. The Audi is faster and car, and in slick conditions better, but it has less soul to me. . I prefer the V12 brakes. The R8 brakes did not stand out enough for me to remember, even though both are equally good at stopping. The Vantage has more grunt and seems to rev more freely, But honestly they are both great motors. I just wish the R8 had more aggression to it. For me the vantage appears to egg you on. Begging you to go faster. Even. When you are driving around town the V12 rewards you with a fantastic burble every time you decelerate.
The good news is, you can't make a bad choice. Both are beyond good cars.
Last edited by black penguin; 06-08-2012 at 07:53 PM.