Stuart, I bet you'd sell EVEN MORE headers if you set the price at $250!

 

Actually, I changed my mind. Since we just recieved our Obama stimulus cheque, we will now be paying YOU to install RSC products.

 

It seem that if you could work a deal to import the Bamford Rose header or headers and cats package it would save a lot of R& D and production cost. They cost $6,000 installed, which is about what the proposed $3,500 headers and cats would cost without installation. BR has the pedigree and engineering that would make it a most inviting package. Does not seem that the Aston Martin aftermarket demand can support multiple manufactures.

 

Now that's a good deal!

 

We already have catalysts developed and have been selling these, long before Bamford Rose existed so there's really no benefit to us to import their catalysts and make smaller margins doing so. Designing and manufacturing high-flow cats is not rocket science and you don't need to be one of the development engineers to do it well. The most critical thing apart from being solidly constructed is to use a high quality high gsm loaded matrix.

The same is true of headers, you don't need to have been a development engineer to design a high quality header with optimal primary length and configuration, and with a fabricated merge collector for the best airflow. The Bamford Rose headers and cats are £5000 GBP installed, which is not far off $8000.00. Our headers & cats will be $6000.00, and because we're reasonable guys, we'll probably offer a little discount on both. So really, it isn't at all economical for us to import their product when we had half of it developed already, and have been planning headers for these cars for some time.

As far as the size of the market, it is not huge, no. I wish it was Porsche sized but it is not. It isn't a question of whether I think that there is 'room' for 2 people doing it, I just think that we can do headers better and for less money than what is currently being offered.

 

The market size is a function of supply and demand, as you decrease the price, the demand will increase thereby requiring an increase in supply (sales) to meet the increased demand. $2500 would be the ideal price point and you would have alot more Aston owners state side considering doing the headers, where as most probably won't touch it at $3500 and will go with other less invasive performance options.

Perhaps if you did a $2999 group buy price for the first 5 customers that would be a great initial offer. Just saying ...

I'm glad another firm is deciding to produce headers other than the ripoff masters at dragon Motorsports. $6k for headers is asinine, there is no other word for it.

 

OP - I had our car on the dyno today, this is what the AFR should look like. I'm not sure exactly what's going on with your car, it is definitely a lot richer than we expect to see, and the fact that the gains were so much lower with just the addition of the cats, and same again with the ECU Tune makes me wonder if there's something else not quite right?

Incidentally, this was the best pull our car has ever done. 347.2 RWHP.

 

Thanks for info, BR headers and Cats is 3,200 pounds, 5,000 with quicksilver muffler and intermediate pipes, price with installation. I agree that the Cats are basic, the fitment between vendors can make a difference. There is a bit more
engineering in headers.

 

That is not the same pricing that I have seen. Quicksilver's website lists the headers + catalysts at £5000 GBP.

 

Stuart-this still looks rich. What does this car have done to it?

 

Thats not rich at all ... In fact it's a tad bit on the lean side if anything. Ending at 13.1 is righ about optimal at redline, although below that is a tad lean, nothing serious though, well within the appropriate parameters. Above 14 is where you start running to lean/hot.

 

yep, you are right. I misspoke. We have discussed this several times just too tired I guess!

These cars usually drop to 10 or worse at WOT stock which is very rich.

 

Here is the open loop base fuel table for my 4.3l AMV8, straight out of my PCM.

 

I just passed my NJ State inspection with Larini 200 cell cats installed. This makes me happy.

 

Awesome, thanks for the emissions update Axa! that's a good sign for those wanting to do it but worried about emissions testing