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Old 10-02-2019 | 11:30 PM
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Hello guys, dung the crazy storm last week my GT was stuck in the flood, got it towed to the mechanic shop where they then gave me the sad news thait the engine is locked. Is there any possibilities of getting this car back to work? I have so much emotional attachment to my car. I know there must be someone out there who Might be able to work some magic.
 
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Hello guys, dung the crazy storm last week my GT was stuck in the flood, got it towed to the mechanic shop where they then gave me the sad news thait the engine is locked. Is there any possibilities of getting this car back to work? I have so much emotional attachment to my car. I know there must be someone out there who Might be able to work some magic.
No worries. They have to remove the spark plugs, with the starter turn the engine over and the compression will push the water out. Then change the engine oil. Check the fuel system for water Ingress before restarting the vehicle. Replace spark plugs with new.


Consider having them spray a bit of WD-40 down each cylinder and continue to use the starter to push the fluid out. The real purpose of WD-40 is its a water displacing mineral oil.


Best of luck don't fret it.
 
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Originally Posted by Tobanla21
Hello guys, dung the crazy storm last week my GT was stuck in the flood, got it towed to the mechanic shop where they then gave me the sad news thait the engine is locked. Is there any possibilities of getting this car back to work? I have so much emotional attachment to my car. I know there must be someone out there who Might be able to work some magic.
Hello ... Was the car fully or partly submerged in water, did the water come over the engine.
Once this is determined then certain steps can be taken ... do lets us know ...
 
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Old 10-03-2019 | 03:26 AM
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By the way the air filter probably is wet as well so that would be changed. My assumption is during a driving rain the car was driven and it sucked water through the intake?
 
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Don't take this as your car is damaged to the max, Im only given this info as a guide, as mentioned in my post did the car submerge into water or did you drive through a big puddle, ether way the engine has taken in water, through the Air Intakes.
Hydro Lock, if the air filter is wet or soaked then look pull the dip stick & check the level if high then water is in the block, if the oil looks milky then again water has made its way into the bottom.
You will have to remove all the spark plugs and find a tube to suck all the water out of the cylinders. Did the engine stop right away or did it still spin until lock, now worse case is a lot of damage has been done engine rebuild as we all know engine work on compression & water doesn't compress this puts massive strain on the engine components.
If the car was submerged in water then transmission will definitely have water inside the system, also electrical damage. If the car was in a puddle deep enough that the exhaust was submerged then its likely water also went into the exhaust & into the engine, this is due to stepping off the gas peddle in the middle of a puddle. If the engine stalled out or you turned it off right away then not much damaged has been done. In that case you could remove the spark plugs remove the fuel pumps fuses & crank the engine for a few seconds this will push any water thats in the cylinders out (cover the area with a big towel or something) as a big mess will shoot out. Once thats been done then replace new or the same plugs, replace the fuel pumps fuses & turn it over it may not fire up the first time but it will fire up, don't press the gas peddle let it idle.
Thats the ball part of it all, lets us know what the full diagnosis is ... Good Luck hope it nothing ...
 
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Originally Posted by Tobanla21
Hello guys, dung the crazy storm last week my GT was stuck in the flood, got it towed to the mechanic shop where they then gave me the sad news thait the engine is locked. Is there any possibilities of getting this car back to work? I have so much emotional attachment to my car. I know there must be someone out there who Might be able to work some magic.
Sorry this happened.

There is not enough information here to suggest the engine is hydro locked. There are only two scenarios I can think of where water actually made the circuitous intake path starting at the grill air intakes (which is approx 32" above ground level) UP into the air filters, then DOWN the intake tubes to the turbos (where they'll be flooded through into the cats), then UP though the intercoolers, then UP into the intake manifold through the TBs, then DOWN into the cylinders through the intake valves. Phew! The IC engine just isn't enough of a "water pump" to do that, so, if it is actually hydro locked:

1. You drove at a pretty high RPM through at least 32" of water (or tried to) and this stalled the engine?
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2. The car sat still parked and was flooded, in water that was over 32" deep which means it was sitting for a while in water over that depth, then when the water receded you tried to start it?

Either of these scenarios possible, or a third one?
 
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Sorry this happened.

There is not enough information here to suggest the engine is hydro locked. There are only two scenarios I can think of where water actually made the circuitous intake path starting at the grill air intakes (which is approx 32" above ground level) UP into the air filters, then DOWN the intake tubes to the turbos (where they'll be flooded through into the cats), then UP though the intercoolers, then UP into the intake manifold through the TBs, then DOWN into the cylinders through the intake valves. Phew! The IC engine just isn't enough of a "water pump" to do that, so, if it is actually hydro locked:

1. You drove at a pretty high RPM through at least 32" of water (or tried to) and this stalled the engine?
or
2. The car sat still parked and was flooded, in water that was over 32" deep which means it was sitting for a while in water over that depth, then when the water receded you tried to start it?

Either of these scenarios possible, or a third one?
Excellent points well stated.
 
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Originally Posted by BWings
Sorry this happened.

There is not enough information here to suggest the engine is hydro locked. There are only two scenarios I can think of where water actually made the circuitous intake path starting at the grill air intakes (which is approx 32" above ground level) UP into the air filters, then DOWN the intake tubes to the turbos (where they'll be flooded through into the cats), then UP though the intercoolers, then UP into the intake manifold through the TBs, then DOWN into the cylinders through the intake valves. Phew! The IC engine just isn't enough of a "water pump" to do that, so, if it is actually hydro locked:

1. You drove at a pretty high RPM through at least 32" of water (or tried to) and this stalled the engine?
or
2. The car sat still parked and was flooded, in water that was over 32" deep which means it was sitting for a while in water over that depth, then when the water receded you tried to start it?

Either of these scenarios possible, or a third one?
See if you can claim it on your insurance. Hope you don’t have State Farm tho....🤦🏾
 
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Thats the point non of us know what actually happened, this is why I asked the chap in my 1st post what took place then a proper diagnosis can be posted ...
 
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Thats the point non of us know what actually happened, this is why I asked the chap in my 1st post what took place then a proper diagnosis can be posted ...
Gooood Morning Mr. Rico!

I did not see your first post, but yes, appears you're on the same path as me. If I were a betting person, I'd put this situation more in category #2 in my post. That this car was parked somewhere, the rains came and submerged part of it, then when the water receded Mr. T21 probably tried to start it and couldn't, so towed. But at that point depending on the level of the water, the engine might have been completely under water; or, other components damaged such as the starter completely shorting out.

I don't think scenario #1 is likely because if it was driven hard through a flooded road section then stalled out that would have also stranded Mr. T21 trapped in the car which is now in standing water. This would have been a much more dramatic post than what was described.

BTW, this happens all the time here in Arizona. We either get no rain or a complete downpour...nothing in between. Complete intersections get flooded out in minutes with a couple of feet of water, yet people try driving it every time. There were so many rescues that had to be made (Fire dept rescuing individuals trapped in the submerged car) that AZ passed a statute a few years back affectionately known as the "Stupid Motorist's Law". Not at all meaning to impugn Mr. T21's character by any stretch, but here in AZ if you do drive into a flooded intersection and need to be rescued, the city will bill you for the services. Firetrucks and other rescue vehicles are $5000/hour, Crew is $1500/person/hour. So, a one hour rescue could be in the neighborhood of $15K to $20K.....Still they try! And I don't know what the insurance co would say (or laugh) about that. LOL
 
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Originally Posted by BWings
Gooood Morning Mr. Rico!

I did not see your first post, but yes, appears you're on the same path as me. If I were a betting person, I'd put this situation more in category #2 in my post. That this car was parked somewhere, the rains came and submerged part of it, then when the water receded Mr. T21 probably tried to start it and couldn't, so towed. But at that point depending on the level of the water, the engine might have been completely under water; or, other components damaged such as the starter completely shorting out.

I don't think scenario #1 is likely because if it was driven hard through a flooded road section then stalled out that would have also stranded Mr. T21 trapped in the car which is now in standing water. This would have been a much more dramatic post than what was described.

BTW, this happens all the time here in Arizona. We either get no rain or a complete downpour...nothing in between. Complete intersections get flooded out in minutes with a couple of feet of water, yet people try driving it every time. There were so many rescues that had to be made (Fire dept rescuing individuals trapped in the submerged car) that AZ passed a statute a few years back affectionately known as the "Stupid Motorist's Law". Not at all meaning to impugn Mr. T21's character by any stretch, but here in AZ if you do drive into a flooded intersection and need to be rescued, the city will bill you for the services. Firetrucks and other rescue vehicles are $5000/hour, Crew is $1500/person/hour. So, a one hour rescue could be in the neighborhood of $15K to $20K.....Still they try! And I don't know what the insurance co would say (or laugh) about that. LOL
Hey Mr BWings, my friend how are you Steve ... Is it morning there, it will be dark here in an hour.
Yes we are reading your theory most likely thats what's took place, the chap needs to check some of the fuses to, just to be sure before dismantling ...
LOL this happens in the UK most winters fools ignore the signs FLOOD drive through & bobs your uncle steam starts rising ... people just don't think 15-20k for maybe a extra mile or two diversion its speaks for its self, is this sort of thing covered under insurance driving through a puddle ...
 
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Hey Mr BWings, my friend how are you Steve ... Is it morning there, it will be dark here in an hour.
Yes we are reading your theory most likely thats what's took place, the chap needs to check some of the fuses to, just to be sure before dismantling ...
LOL this happens in the UK most winters fools ignore the signs FLOOD drive through & bobs your uncle steam starts rising ... people just don't think 15-20k for maybe a extra mile or two diversion its speaks for its self, is this sort of thing covered under insurance driving through a puddle ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stupid_Motorist_Law

Wiki is old and light on the most recent rescue costs
 
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Originally Posted by BWings
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stupid_Motorist_Law

Wiki is old and light on the most recent rescue costs
Lol oh my I see what you mean, what can one say, the bill is steep but rightly so if one is stupid enough to ignore the signs, its a chargeable offence ...
 
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Just saw this thread, I was answering in the other thread on this same vehicle, as others have said we need some info, and please be precise, did the engine die out while driving through water, when all was over either before or after towing it to the shop, did anyone try to start the engine prior to checking and draining the engine oil, and or pulling all coils and plugs to check each cylinder for water, I have seen were people in the past have taken a flood car and try to start it without doing any of the precautionary actions to save the engine, only to cause more damage, and by not taking these actions they blew head gaskets, and or bent piston rods, so it yourself or the shop tried to start prior to these actions please tell us.
Or did you hear any bad sounds while driving, such as knocking ?
 
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