Aftermarket parts?
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09-22-2020 | 06:24 PM
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I just picked a random one, just search Ebay, they have a bunnch
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...irror&_sacat=0
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...irror&_sacat=0
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09-23-2020 | 12:33 AM
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There are a whole bunch of them on Ebay.
Expensive as hell, but it's not like they're unobtainium.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Bentley-Gtc...oAAOSwB9JZcUJA
Expensive as hell, but it's not like they're unobtainium.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Bentley-Gtc...oAAOSwB9JZcUJA
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09-23-2020 | 01:31 PM
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I dunno, a couple hundred bucks for a side mirror isn't that out-of-hand. I had a Cadillac SUV that I smacked something with the mirror and that's what motorized mirrors cost.
I think that if you're looking for Hyundai parts prices for a low-production super-premium/exotic car, you're going to have as much luck as I have in trying to get a $35 Bentley oil change with Mobil One.
It is what it is, there are dozens of mirrors available all the way from the mirror assembly to the glass and chrome mounting by themselves. It's weird that you said you had hunted high and low and couldn't find one, that's all.
I think that if you're looking for Hyundai parts prices for a low-production super-premium/exotic car, you're going to have as much luck as I have in trying to get a $35 Bentley oil change with Mobil One.
It is what it is, there are dozens of mirrors available all the way from the mirror assembly to the glass and chrome mounting by themselves. It's weird that you said you had hunted high and low and couldn't find one, that's all.
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03-02-2021 | 06:20 AM
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i put this on another post also for all you guys who need a wing mirror glass , sent a pattern to a company in london who cut it and supplied with adhesive backing and posted to me for 21 quid all in, if any one needs details or wish me to post info let me know..i searched ages for one and as you can see it looks pretty good and easdy to replace over exsisting
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03-02-2021 | 05:02 PM
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A quick trawl of autodoc's web site resulted in this:
Lemforder 39986 01 Front Axle, Left, Upper, Control Arm https://www.autodoc.co.uk/lemforder/13473285
Lemforder 39987 01 Front Axle, Right, Upper, Control Arm https://www.autodoc.co.uk/lemforder/13473286
Lemforder 39988 01 Front Axle, Left, Upper, Rear, Control Arm, Aluminium https://www.autodoc.co.uk/lemforder/13473287
Lemforder 39989 01 Front Axle, Right, Upper, Rear, Control Arm, Aluminium https://www.autodoc.co.uk/lemforder/13473288
Lemforder 27146 01 Track Control Arm with rubber mounting, without accessories, Front Axle, Lower, Left, Rear, Control Arm https://www.autodoc.co.uk/lemforder/1264635
Lemforder 27147 01 Track Control Arm with rubber mounting, without accessories, Front Axle, Lower, Right, Rear, Control Arm https://www.autodoc.co.uk/lemforder/1264636
Lemforder 38496 01 Track Control Arm with accessories, Control Arm (Both sides) https://www.autodoc.co.uk/lemforder/9666211
The prices have all gone up quite significantly since I bought mine back in February, but still cheaper than elsewhere.
For replacement fasteners I also bought:
https://www.autodoc.co.uk/febi-bilstein/1879257
https://www.autodoc.co.uk/lemforder/12795731
https://www.autodoc.co.uk/febi-bilstein/1887401
The pinch bolt from hell is this: https://www.autodoc.co.uk/lemforder/1265534
I can't find the ARB drop links 3W0411317C but HR Owen sell them on EBay.
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Lemforder 39986 01 Front Axle, Left, Upper, Control Arm https://www.autodoc.co.uk/lemforder/13473285
Lemforder 39987 01 Front Axle, Right, Upper, Control Arm https://www.autodoc.co.uk/lemforder/13473286
Lemforder 39988 01 Front Axle, Left, Upper, Rear, Control Arm, Aluminium https://www.autodoc.co.uk/lemforder/13473287
Lemforder 39989 01 Front Axle, Right, Upper, Rear, Control Arm, Aluminium https://www.autodoc.co.uk/lemforder/13473288
Lemforder 27146 01 Track Control Arm with rubber mounting, without accessories, Front Axle, Lower, Left, Rear, Control Arm https://www.autodoc.co.uk/lemforder/1264635
Lemforder 27147 01 Track Control Arm with rubber mounting, without accessories, Front Axle, Lower, Right, Rear, Control Arm https://www.autodoc.co.uk/lemforder/1264636
Lemforder 38496 01 Track Control Arm with accessories, Control Arm (Both sides) https://www.autodoc.co.uk/lemforder/9666211
The prices have all gone up quite significantly since I bought mine back in February, but still cheaper than elsewhere.
For replacement fasteners I also bought:
https://www.autodoc.co.uk/febi-bilstein/1879257
https://www.autodoc.co.uk/lemforder/12795731
https://www.autodoc.co.uk/febi-bilstein/1887401
The pinch bolt from hell is this: https://www.autodoc.co.uk/lemforder/1265534
I can't find the ARB drop links 3W0411317C but HR Owen sell them on EBay.
Usual caveat: NCJASC.
Some of those parts are Audi not Bentley parts? I saw that some suspension parts might have similar numbers but are different, like the anti-rollbar drop links?
For example the front upper wishbone, front is Bentley part 3W0407505 and 3W0407506, swap the 3W to 4E and you get something that looks similar but does it have the same compound in the bushes etc?
If you search autodoc for 3W0407505 you only get some dodgy cheap brand Dakatec.
Look for the Audi part 4E0407505, the lemforder arms come up for VW and Audi.
This part number is missing the F on the end, but I'm not sure where to identify that? Scuderia parts doesn't list the F on the end?
If I put in 3W0407505F I get no parts. 4E0407505F, I get the Audi part.
I am confused!
(EDIT: In fact Lemforders own site doesn't list any front suspension parts for my 09 Speed)
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03-03-2021 | 01:53 AM
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I fully agree that simply swapping a 3W for a 4E, with the same seven digit following number, does not always result in an identical part - that holds true for parts all over the car. Hence the ARB drop links are very definitely not common between Phaeton, A8 and CGT.
All the other parts that I listed are physically interchangeable, but you raise an interesting point about bush compounds, and I can't be sure, other than to say that my findings were that even for 'Speed' variants (<2010) the bushes didn't change part number suffix compared to normal cars.
I spent a long time trawling through Lemforder catalogues (not just their web site) to arrive at the list which I posted, but I'm conscious that Autodoc's part number references don't always support my conclusions.
All the other parts that I listed are physically interchangeable, but you raise an interesting point about bush compounds, and I can't be sure, other than to say that my findings were that even for 'Speed' variants (<2010) the bushes didn't change part number suffix compared to normal cars.
I spent a long time trawling through Lemforder catalogues (not just their web site) to arrive at the list which I posted, but I'm conscious that Autodoc's part number references don't always support my conclusions.
Everyone says the bushes self distruct instantly on those cheap lookalike bits... It makes me wonder how it's leagal to make critial components so badly and sell them!
Anyway thanks for your list, I might see what Lemforder say about if these parts are or are not correct fitment. I woundn't want to stuff up the suspension with, not quite right bits.
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03-03-2021 | 02:08 AM
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I absolutely agree with you about the prevalence of cheap pattern parts, which I why I only use Lemforder. Their castings are quite clearly Alfot as per original.
On the subject of interchangeability: you may not get a straight answer from Lemforder: They have to be very careful because I suspect that they have supply agreements with VW/Audi which constrain what they can sell to the aftermarket, and for which brands.
So, for example, they may be permitted to sell VW and Audi parts as OEM quality aftermarket, but not Bentley, so even if they (Lemforder) know that one of their part numbers is also a precise fit for the CGT, they may not be permitted to say so.
There's also the consideration of whether it's better to be using brand new OEM quality bushes of a slightly different hardness, or 15 year old, once 'perfect' bushes, that have degraded.
On the subject of interchangeability: you may not get a straight answer from Lemforder: They have to be very careful because I suspect that they have supply agreements with VW/Audi which constrain what they can sell to the aftermarket, and for which brands.
So, for example, they may be permitted to sell VW and Audi parts as OEM quality aftermarket, but not Bentley, so even if they (Lemforder) know that one of their part numbers is also a precise fit for the CGT, they may not be permitted to say so.
There's also the consideration of whether it's better to be using brand new OEM quality bushes of a slightly different hardness, or 15 year old, once 'perfect' bushes, that have degraded.
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03-03-2021 | 03:22 AM
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I absolutely agree with you about the prevalence of cheap pattern parts, which I why I only use Lemforder. Their castings are quite clearly Alfot as per original.
On the subject of interchangeability: you may not get a straight answer from Lemforder: They have to be very careful because I suspect that they have supply agreements with VW/Audi which constrain what they can sell to the aftermarket, and for which brands.
So, for example, they may be permitted to sell VW and Audi parts as OEM quality aftermarket, but not Bentley, so even if they (Lemforder) know that one of their part numbers is also a precise fit for the CGT, they may not be permitted to say so.
There's also the consideration of whether it's better to be using brand new OEM quality bushes of a slightly different hardness, or 15 year old, once 'perfect' bushes, that have degraded.
On the subject of interchangeability: you may not get a straight answer from Lemforder: They have to be very careful because I suspect that they have supply agreements with VW/Audi which constrain what they can sell to the aftermarket, and for which brands.
So, for example, they may be permitted to sell VW and Audi parts as OEM quality aftermarket, but not Bentley, so even if they (Lemforder) know that one of their part numbers is also a precise fit for the CGT, they may not be permitted to say so.
There's also the consideration of whether it's better to be using brand new OEM quality bushes of a slightly different hardness, or 15 year old, once 'perfect' bushes, that have degraded.
Phaeton Parts:
27027 01
27028 01
27029 01
27030 01
27146 01
27147 01
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03-03-2021 | 10:36 AM
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Yes. That's exactly the point that I was trying to make about supply agreements into the aftermarket in the second and third sentences of my last post, which is why, I suspect, that Lemforder won't answer your enquiry. Nor will they state equivalence of 3Wxxxxxxx numbers to 4Eyyyyyyyy numbers.
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03-03-2021 | 11:45 AM
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I see AutoDoc says that the upper arms 39989, 39988 are shown as Flying Spur 2013-on only?
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03-03-2021 | 05:11 PM
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I really wouldn't take any notice of Autodoc as regards fitting.
Interestingly Lemforder list those two parts as applicable to Bentley but with 4E0 prefixes, here:
https://webcat.zf.com/index.asp?KAT_...teile_info.asp
https://webcat.zf.com/index.asp?last...artnr=39988+01
which rather contradicts my earlier assertion that they wouldn't quote Bentley fitment.
In fact, if you substitute any of the numbers in that earlier post of mine, from last year, into the URLs above, you will see a list of Bentley equivalents, albeit with 4E0 prefixes.
However, they also say "not valid for: Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Ecuador, French Guyana, Great Britain, Guyana, Ireland, Paraguay, Peru, Portugal, Spain, Uruguay, Venezuela" which is presumably because Lemforder aren't licensed by VW/Audi to sell aftermarket into those countries.
Interestingly Lemforder list those two parts as applicable to Bentley but with 4E0 prefixes, here:
https://webcat.zf.com/index.asp?KAT_...teile_info.asp
https://webcat.zf.com/index.asp?last...artnr=39988+01
which rather contradicts my earlier assertion that they wouldn't quote Bentley fitment.
In fact, if you substitute any of the numbers in that earlier post of mine, from last year, into the URLs above, you will see a list of Bentley equivalents, albeit with 4E0 prefixes.
However, they also say "not valid for: Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Ecuador, French Guyana, Great Britain, Guyana, Ireland, Paraguay, Peru, Portugal, Spain, Uruguay, Venezuela" which is presumably because Lemforder aren't licensed by VW/Audi to sell aftermarket into those countries.
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03-04-2021 | 06:36 PM
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Still yet to purchase these myself. Due to car cluster issue and lockdown it’s on low priority. Hopefully once I get the cluster sorted this week I can start getting the front arms sorted. Anyone order anything from Autodoc recently with Brexit in play?
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03-05-2021 | 01:19 AM
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This meant that Autodoc products were taking even longer to arrive.
I assume that after two months those problems will have been overcome.
Worse though is the fact that you will now have to pay import duty and VAT on those parts.