raced c63 in my e92 m3
#31
DID YOU GET IT @ vista ?
I have the new M3 as well with the double clutch /paddles (took delivery last Friday)....have the M5 smg as well...The M3 to my surprise is pretty quick....seriously......1st time really getting on it briefly today.....the M5 will slap you back in your seat with each shift....as will the M3.....love the paddles....always thought I was a stick guy untill my Stradale...then the M5...then ordered the M3 same...wouldnt have it any other way special ordered white coupe, red leaher/carbon roof...fully loaded....
#34
then he deserves to lose every race for the rest of his life...
Rolling start + DCT = absolutely fair chance for an M to run with a c63.
Rolling start + DCT = absolutely fair chance for an M to run with a c63.
#37
yes...big improvement...I still use the paddles though....
#38
Ive never driven an SMG car or a DCT obviously. If the car is in manual mode will it still shift for you if you dont like most cars with paddles or is it a true manual? I know in my IS 250 (which is in no way a sports car) in manual mode if you dont up shift it will for you anyway. What about the Benz? Same thing or is that more of an auto car?
Thanks
#40
Ive never driven an SMG car or a DCT obviously. If the car is in manual mode will it still shift for you if you dont like most cars with paddles or is it a true manual? I know in my IS 250 (which is in no way a sports car) in manual mode if you dont up shift it will for you anyway. What about the Benz? Same thing or is that more of an auto car?
Thanks
Thanks
#41
You'll have to excuse my skepticism on this. I suppose it's possible, but I really just don't see the M3 pulling away from a C63, regardless of the transmission...it can't compete with the AMG's overwhelming amount of brute force. The M3 should have shined down low with its lower weight and more aggressive gearing and then started to fade as the speeds increased...I've never heard of an AMG getting slower as the speeds increased.
BUUUT, even if it is true, the AMG still has 6.3 liters of engine to play with, it won't take much in the way of modifications to ensure that it wins every single time.
BUUUT, even if it is true, the AMG still has 6.3 liters of engine to play with, it won't take much in the way of modifications to ensure that it wins every single time.
Last edited by porschefan1013; 04-26-2008 at 10:43 AM.
#42
Anything can happen on the street, but C63 has close to 500hp (all 63's make similar power, C63 is underrated) and 445lb-ft torque in comparison to M3's 420hp and 295lb-ft torque, so it should've won easily from a roll. Pretty much every comparison showed C63 be significantly faster in the straights, for example, see this Top Gear video (towards the end). No matter what kind of transmission M3 has, it still has way less hp and 150lb-ft less troque : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__ghLE7QtnA
If you look at 1/4 mile times and trap speeds, you'll see that C63 is as fast as E63, E55 and BMW M5. We're not going to start saying that M3 w/ DCT is as fast as M5, are we now?
If you look at 1/4 mile times and trap speeds, you'll see that C63 is as fast as E63, E55 and BMW M5. We're not going to start saying that M3 w/ DCT is as fast as M5, are we now?
Last edited by Tuskir; 04-26-2008 at 12:55 PM.
#43
Anything can happen on the street, but C63 has close to 500hp (all 63's make similar power, C63 is underrated) and 445lb-ft torque in comparison to M3's 420hp and 295lb-ft torque, so it should've won easily from a roll. Pretty much every comparison showed C63 be significantly faster in the straights, for example, see this Top Gear video (towards the end). No matter what kind of transmission M3 has, it still has way less hp and 150lb-ft less troque : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__ghLE7QtnA
If you look at 1/4 mile times and trap speeds, you'll see that C63 is as fast as E63, E55 and BMW M5. We're not going to start saying that M3 w/ DCT is as fast as M5, are we now?
If you look at 1/4 mile times and trap speeds, you'll see that C63 is as fast as E63, E55 and BMW M5. We're not going to start saying that M3 w/ DCT is as fast as M5, are we now?
#44
Ive never driven an SMG car or a DCT obviously. If the car is in manual mode will it still shift for you if you dont like most cars with paddles or is it a true manual? I know in my IS 250 (which is in no way a sports car) in manual mode if you dont up shift it will for you anyway. What about the Benz? Same thing or is that more of an auto car?
Thanks
Thanks
#45
i have a E46m3.. its a great car.. but IMO its not a beast in straight acceleration for its power. the Carrera S with 10 hp more just smokes the M3 in any way. i have the m3 and had the CS.
well i really dont think the new M3 is a beast in straight .
street races depends to much of the driver.
let me drive the C.
well i really dont think the new M3 is a beast in straight .
street races depends to much of the driver.
let me drive the C.