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Gintani Stage 2+ SC'd E92 M3 vs. 2- C6 Z06's, 2- GTR's & One fast Proto 996tt 24/20g.

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Old 08-22-2010 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Divexxtreme
What percentage of meth are you running? If it's a high percentage, or even 100% meth, the 104 may not have been enough octane and you were pulling timing.

Meth injection can give you anywhere from 10-25 octane points depending on the amount used, so if say you are using 100% meth with 91, it could be very similar to running C16. Once you went to 104, your ECU noticed a loss of octane and therefore pulled timing to compensate.

It's only a hypothesis, since I don't know the specifics of your setup nor have I seen any datalogs.
I run 50/50 Water/Meth, however I recently installed a larger nozzle. I understand what you are saying but I was running the 104 and Meth injection at the same time in these runs, so I don't think it pulled any timing. I'm wondering if I over did it with running both at the sametime, or maybe I'm just too obessed wtih Vbox results.

Good point though Bro, kinda hard to say without logging, etc.
 
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Originally Posted by C4TT
It's incredible how fast the stock C6 Z is. I wish I never sold mine. With a few odds and ends that car is a missile!
Imagine the equivalent mods on the Z! Nutty!

Thanks for posting!
Scott's SC'd Z06 ran in the mid 5's, I bet if he'd had it longer he'd ran some better times.

I'm sure you've seen this vid -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3GaUKNaYkc
 
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very impressive m3 and porsche
 
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Originally Posted by bone_doc s4
nice runs bro!!!! that 996 is impressive...
Thanks Karl!
 
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very impressive m3 and porsche
Thanks!
 
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Originally Posted by DLSJ5
Thanks Bud, appreciate that!

Am I crazy or do you think I may have gone too far with running the WM and 104 octane? I did increase the WM amount slightly, but the car loved it on 91. During the runs the car felt a TAD sluggish, but still ran good. Those Mexico roads are not the best place for solid Vbox pulls, but on a 3.x decline the car did 7.6. On a fairly flat road I recently hit 7.06, on 91+Meth.
Here is a good site for information on WM

http://www.aquamist.co.uk/vbulletin/
 

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Awesome time out there Drew! Its a Porsche Cars and Coffee this weekend so come early and hang out with all the guys...
 
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Originally Posted by DLSJ5
Scott's SC'd Z06 ran in the mid 5's, I bet if he'd had it longer he'd ran some better times.

I'm sure you've seen this vid -
I sure have!! It's nuts what a powerful, lightweight platform with tons of grip and .34 drag coefficient can do!
The shelby has to defy all the laws of physics with just sheer tarmac chewing torque and hp... lol
A blower on the Vette like Scott had would be "extreeeme"
I may still pick up a ZR1 in the future. Pulley tune exhaust. done deal
 
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That DCT transmission is incredible. Nice runs.
 
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Originally Posted by sid350
Awesome time out there Drew! Its a Porsche Cars and Coffee this weekend so come early and hang out with all the guys...
Thanks Bro! I will try and make it out.

Just a note here on the runs -

I was wrong on the info, he's actually running K24/Garret 50 lb compressor wheels, so his Turbo's are a bit larger than K24/20g's, and he does not have the RWD conversion he is AWD. I will post the revised vid today Sid! We need to get some Vbox runs on your car ASAP.
 
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That DCT transmission is incredible. Nice runs.
Thanks man, I think it's one main reason the car does so well.
 
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Originally Posted by DLSJ5

I was wrong on the info, he's actually running K24/Garret 50 lb compressor wheels, so his Turbo's are a bit larger than K24/20g's
His numbers are almost identical to K24/20Gs. They'll make 675 -700 whp on a dynojet on race gas. I'd like to see his graphs as I'm curious how the curve looks compared to K24/20Gs.
 

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Awesome runs and vids, sad I missed out buddy.
 
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Awesome runs and vids, sad I missed out buddy.
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