Got a chance to do a pull in Mexico on the way to Mfest with a good buddy of mine in his modded GTR. We have ran several times before but we wanted to see how I would do now with the ESS setup. Big thanks to Mspired for filming and posting it up on youtube, and my buddy in the GTR for the runs.

Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CAnSybH51M

 

How does it compare to the gintani sc?

 

That was my last run before the motor finally went. No doubt when it ran it moved, and cleary with more boost, less weight it was faster. How fast the car is, is no longer the biggest factor for me anymore, ask most who have gone through what I have, most feel the same way, I know you have told me about how you feel with your situation as well, it's not fun.

However it would be foolish to compare those two video's without proper clarification. There is a huge difference between what both kits were running in each vid. The ESS car is running only 6psi of boost, 91 octane file, WM turned on, it has 360 lbs. of extra weight if not more, we were on our way to Mfest, with luggage as well. The Gintani setup did not have the extra weight, was running 9.3psi, MS109 and Meth. I have yet to run a Modded GTR from a roll with the VT625 7.5 pulley and race gas file, so we'll see when that time comes, but that is still almost 2 psi less, and I can still run 93 octane, which for me would be 91 mixed with 100 of course.

Also that's a different GT-R, that GTR had pulled on me as well in previous races, the Black GT-R in the ESS vid pulled on me multiple times when I had the Gintani kit running 9psi, the runs went back and forth.

Either way this thread is not about comparing kits, it's about what my current setup does and at only 6psi it moves very well, just as my Gintani kit did at 8-9psi, I can assure you the Gintani kit would not have done as well at 6psi as the ESS kit did, with a lot of extra weight in the car as well.

 

Why did you decide to chagne out the Gintani kit? I thought that was the Best SC kit out....?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anU7lFB1Ha8
Refer to 6.35

 

Wow nice vid. :-)

 

Drew.

Great runs with your new ESS setup! You will continually be impressed with the performance based on the boost level. You have obviously seen what running too much boost can do. Welcome to a reliable S/C kit that you can beat on all day long and still drive it home, even if you are doing 14 straight drag pulls in Vegas!

I'm glad to see you are up and running strong again and happy with your ESS S/C kit!

 

+10000

 

Drew,

I dont know if I'm missing something here but the gintani SC blew up your motor?If so was it due to the tune? Too much boost?

Please clarify.

 

Glad you made the switch and your happy brotha! Car runs really great!

 

Curio/Sticky, stay out of this thread. It isn't enough that you endlessly harrass Drew on your own forum, yet you want to do it here as well?

The truth is he's taking the high-road when it comes to discussing Gintani. If he was truly open about his issues with them, they would probably be out of business in less than a week.

Keep your drama on your own forum and away from this one. Stay out of this thread.

 

Enough with the ESS vs Gintani drama. CURI0 has been banned. Let it go already...

 

To say it as diplomatically as it can be said, Drew had problems. Something decided to let go in the motor, and he ended up with a well ventilated block and oil pan...his motor blew. Eight months went by before he got his car back. When he got it back, he decided to remove the Gintani kit and install an ESS kit.

Recently another Gintani Supercharged S65 motor blew. KiokenM3 sold his car to a guy back east. That motor has now blown. Here's the link:
http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showp...0&postcount=29

OK, I'll just stick to the facts...like those above.

 

Heard u guys do a great work,Keep it up................PG talks highly of u guys!!!!

 

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Originally Posted by Divexxtreme

Curio/Sticky, stay out of this thread. It isn't enough that you endlessly harass Drew on your own forum, yet you want to do it here as well?

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Originally Posted by Divexxtreme

Enough with the ESS vs. Gintani drama. CURI0 has been banned. Let it go already...

I'm going to attempt to explain why it's counterproductive to delete Sticky's posts. Whether you ban him or not, that's a different matter. But deleting his posts only adds to the drama. Here's why.

For starters, Sticky is a pathological liar. He prays on people who are young, gullible, impressionable, etc. He has a strong desire to be wanted and accepted, and be viewed as the smartest guy for BMW's, Merc's, etc. In reality, his knowledge is very limited. In fact, he's outright ignorant of cars and how they work. But he will stop at nothing, including lying and fabricating the most far-fetched stories to "prove" that he's right...and you're wrong.

As long as Sticky's posts get deleted, he'll always find a new batch of people to prey upon. As you have correctly pointed out, he will turn on his friends in a heartbeat, simply because they decided to exercise their own initiative and wipe the dust of a bad experience off of his feet, and do business with somebody else. To Sticky if you don't support Gintani, you're a traitor, and he's now attacking a guy who he defended only a few weeks ago.

I believe there is a better solution. By leaving his posts, people will see just how far out of the mainstream he really is. They will see for themselves how much he lies, fabricates stories, and how little he really knows about cars. The more he tries to argue, the more apparent his ignorance and deceptive nature will become. He will leave, when he is the laughing stock of the entire high performance automotive industry. He will NOT stop as long as people keep deleting his posts. By deleting his posts, these forums are deleting the record of his many deceptions, lies, ignorance, and how far outside of mainstream acceptable behavior he operates. If there is enough record of his aberrant behavior, then it will be clear to everybody that he is an outcast -- and that's exactly where he belongs. But deleting his posts prevents him from being the type of outcast that is needed to make him go away. As long as he can prey on a new batch of young and gullible people, he will continue to do so. And as long as there is little or no record of his aberrant behavior, then people won't know what they've run into...when they run into him. Leaving the record intact for everybody to see how much he lies, manipulates information, deceives people, and his basic ignorance of anything automotive will serve the public and get rid of him faster than deleting everything he writes.

I decided to join this thread knowing that my posts would be deleted if I started arguing with Sticky. My audience wasn't the car forum at large, my audience was one person: Sticky. I wanted him to see just how far detached from reality he really is.

Take M-Fest for example. This is the second year in a row that Sticky started idiotic rumors about me, saying I'm shunned and can't go anywhere. Just a few weeks ago, he fabricated a story that all of the vendors working on my car have refused to work with me. The people Sticky preys upon -- the young and gullible -- believed him. The vendors Sticky says hate me still get a good laugh out of it. In fact, we all get a good laugh out of it because it shows just how detached from reality he is. And I like showing how detached from reality he is, and that's why I'm here right now.

If you compare what Sticky said about me to his own situation, you will see how far detached from reality he is. He can't even leave his house and show up for any local meets because there isn't a place he can go without fear of getting beat up. Yet this is exactly what he's been saying about me for the past two M-Fest events (and all of the time in between). But at both M-Fest events, I was not only welcome in every booth, some booth owners came out to talk to me, when I didn't come in to talk to them. Yet at the same time, Sticky can't leave home and show up at M-Fest because he is unwelcome and will definitely get assaulted if he shows.

Ironically, other than Gintani, there aren't any vendors in Southern California who will even talk to him. He has clearly alienated every vendor in the area -- except the one vendor who welcomes him with open arms. So again, this shows just how far detached from reality Sticky has become. He has a delusion that he's loved and accepted, yet he can't leave his home for fear of being assaulted, and he can't show up to serve the community he thinks he represents.

Lastly, look at the results of this year's M-Fest to see just how far detached he and his friends are from reality. Again, it all started at last year's M-Fest, when one of the Gintani customers, and now employee "niterider" started falsifying stories about his car, how well it performed (or lack thereof), and how many times it took to the track. A half dozen of us counted the times his car took to the track and were timing his car, so we saw its performance (or lack thereof) with our own eyes. Yet when they took to the forums to talk about it, it was clear there was a huge disconnect between what they claimed its performance was versus what a half-dozen witnesses saw with their own eyes, and timed with their own stopwatches. So it was no surprise that they didn't post any lap speeds, nor any proof at how great their cars performed. Clearly, they were hiding what the rest of us saw.

The run up to this year's even was no different. We saw the Gintani/Sticky chest-beating. They called people out on the forums. They said they would bring multiple Stage-3 supercharged cars, their resurrected M5 supercharged car. They said they couldn't even attend a 2-hour dyno shootout to help disprove that they were cheating their dynos -- all because they were too busy getting cars ready for this year's M-Fest. Then the fate of matters changed when Drew announced he got rid of his Gintani kit, and installed an ESS supercharger on his car. Drew immediately went from best friend, to public enemy #1. And it literally happened overnight. But more importantly, all of that chest-beating was for naught. Gintani and Sticky knowing they would either have to risk blowing more motors in order to compete head-to-head against Drew's new kit, didn't even bother to show up at the drag races. All of that chest beating, calling people out, and saying for the past 15 months that they are track and drag race proven to beat any and all competitors, would have to wait. Gintani was a no-show. The only other alternative for Gintani and Sticky was to turn down the boost to safe levels, and become the laughing stock for getting beat so badly.

This year I was determined not to let Sticky and his gang of thugs get away with lying about their car's performance -- especially at my personal expense like they did last year. Last year they made it personal by lying about their own cars, but more importantly lying about mine (even though I posted all vBox files from all laps, for all six sessions I ran). This year I came prepared to photograph the lap time charts, so they couldn't lie about their car's performance. I'm happy to say...I wasn't disappointed I did. So while Gintani supercharged customer cars were a 100% no-show at both the drags and track events, AE Performance did field one car in the tuner challenge. They did set the fastest time, but that barely tells the whole story. The car apparently broke down after only three laps on the track. They say it ran out of gas. But who can believe that, when it's a full blown race car, a wringer with a professional race driver, and it supposedly goes on a race track with an empty tank of gas. I'll say it...that's a BS story. According to the time slips, that car only attempted to the track one other time...and it ran exactly one lap on that session. Clearly something was wrong with the car, and during the tuner challenge it had to be towed off of the track.

But even getting towed off of the track is only part of the story of this car. Remember all of the chest beating and claims that they will destroy everybody? Well, that didn't happen either. Enter a little naturally aspirated E92 from RPI. With only a set of RPI scoops, ESS ECU tune, and RPI exhaust for modifications, the RPI car was only four seconds slower on the track and tuner challenge than a full blown race car, race prepared, race tuned, Gintani supercharged, and with a professional race driver than this naturally aspirated near-stock car put on the field by RPI. With at least 150 more horsepower in a race car with a race driver, the Gintani car couldn't even beat the RPI car by more than 4.5 seconds. So much for the racing heritage, racing legacy, and destroying everybody on the track.

Sticky needed to see that. People needed to see that. People need to see that public record and realize that there is a disconnect between the rhetoric and reality. Once people see just how silly Sticky is, and all of the claims he and his vendor makes, people will realize he's an outcast and will want to stay away from him. But this will never happen if forums keep deleting his posts and removing the public record of just how badly he behaves, and how low he will go to manipulate people and information.

This is why I would encourage this forum to restore the deleted posts from this thread. Let people see the disconnect between what Sticky thinks, says, the lies he tells versus reality. I want people to see what he says about me. I'll admit that at first it bothered me, but now he's only got a small core group of devotees who still believe anything he said about me. And most likely, that core group of people are just other pseudonyms and fake accounts Sticky uses on his own forum to talk to himself. So it doesn't matter any longer. I want Sticky to post up everything about me. I want people to see what he says and just how far out of the mainstream he has gone. I want people to see his mental illness. I want people to be warned about him, and how far he will go to stab anybody in the back how embarrasses him.

Look no farther than what he's doing to Drew right now. Drew went from best friend, to public enemy #1. He's started telling all of the fake stories about Drew -- just like he did about me. It's a whole new cycle with a new victim. Sticky's spreading false stories about Drew's character, his wife, and giving a false story about Gintani supposedly covering the cost of his replacement motor. In a nutshell, Sticky lies about everything and he should be outcast from every car forum and every public arena where he might have influence. But this can only happen if people are sufficiently warned about him. Deleting posts deletes the record of what he does, the lies he tells, and in the case of cars -- how little he knows. Think about it next time you're tempted to delete one of his posts. Which is better for the community at large: is it better for people to see who he really is, or to have little knowledge of him and can't be forewarned that he's a mentally ill person and is most likely beyond any amount of reasonable help.

Sorry for taking up so much space. It had to be said...and people have to be warned.