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Old 04-14-2007 | 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by M3Tifosi
from the trq numbers it seems like the 335 would be alot quicker out of the block.
Not really. It does not have an LSD like the M3, not to mention it will be on narrower tires (255 vs. 265's, not to mention the stock run flats on the 335i are a joke) and will be slightly heavier. All that leads to M3 from a dig, and from a roll on where LSD's & weight become less of a factor then the chipped 335i's will have a much better acceleration range given it's massive torque advantage (you push the accelerator it goes).
 

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When is someone gonna build the 335 engine and slap some huge turbos on it?
 
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When is someone gonna build the 335 engine and slap some huge turbos on it?
thats what i want to see!
 
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LMAO all u 335 guys are too funny ....all of the sudden u think u have god by the *****..... stock for stock with witha e46 m3 . it was basicly a drivers race .. with the sligh edge to the m3 up high .....

the new m3 will a$$ rape the 335 ... bad ..
 
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Originally Posted by unvmym3
LMAO all u 335 guys are too funny ....all of the sudden u think u have god by the *****..... stock for stock with witha e46 m3 . it was basicly a drivers race .. with the sligh edge to the m3 up high .....

the new m3 will a$$ rape the 335 ... bad ..
you are probably right about stock for stock. but this thread isnt about stock for stock...
 
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Old 04-14-2007 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 335_II
thats what i want to see!
Yeah that would be awesome!
 
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Originally Posted by unvmym3
LMAO all u 335 guys are too funny ....all of the sudden u think u have god by the *****..... stock for stock with witha e46 m3 . it was basicly a drivers race .. with the sligh edge to the m3 up high .....

the new m3 will a$$ rape the 335 ... bad ..
You did read the part about "Proced'ed/chipped" 335i right. I'm sure an upcoming M3 will crush a STOCK 335i, but add another +60 hp, and +100 lb.-ft. tq. and it very well can be a different story.
 
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I honestly think that because of the torque advantage, the 335 will take the M from a dig (even without LSD), but then the M will catch up past 80mph and slowly pass the 335. Stock M's feel very docile at lower RPM's. The 335 doesn't feel like that because of the torque available at low RPM's. This makes for more fun daily driving. It's hard to wind a car out to higher RPM's when commuting to work everyday..especially here in NY!
 
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Originally Posted by Raz5219
I honestly think that because of the torque advantage, the 335 will take the M from a dig (even without LSD), but then the M will catch up past 80mph and slowly pass the 335. Stock M's feel very docile at lower RPM's. The 335 doesn't feel like that because of the torque available at low RPM's. This makes for more fun daily driving. It's hard to wind a car out to higher RPM's when commuting to work everyday..especially here in NY!
I doubt this very much. Without drag radials, the 335's are not getting sub 2 sec 60' times even when chipped. The M3 should do the 1/4 in the mid 12's and probably trap in the 112-114mph range. I bet it will pull a chipped 335 from a dig and a roll. But... just get bigger turbo's.
 
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I doubt this very much. Without drag radials, the 335's are not getting sub 2 sec 60' times even when chipped. The M3 should do the 1/4 in the mid 12's and probably trap in the 112-114mph range. I bet it will pull a chipped 335 from a dig and a roll. But... just get bigger turbo's.
A 335 with active autowerek exhaust and ECU ran a 12.6 at moroso on radials
 
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Originally Posted by 335_II
A 335 with active autowerek exhaust and ECU ran a 12.6 at moroso on radials
Are referring to this run? http://www.dragtimes.com/BMW-335i-Timeslip-11392.html

Note the "Tires: DR" and they got a 1.849 60' time. I assume DR is Drag Radials and not Dunlop Radials?
 
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Torque numbers mean very little in these comparisons. Torque only tells you the degree of force that can be delivered at a specific instant (not important) while horsepower measures the actual amount of work that can be done by an engine over a period of time (important). I predict that the new M with "only" 295 ft-lbs of torque will manage to walk away from a chipped 400 ft-lbs torque 335i.
 
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Originally Posted by onetwo
Torque numbers mean very little in these comparisons. Torque only tells you the degree of force that can be delivered at a specific instant (not important) while horsepower measures the actual amount of work that can be done by an engine over a period of time (important). I predict that the new M with "only" 295 ft-lbs of torque will manage to walk away from a chipped 400 ft-lbs torque 335i.
deffinatley will be intresting to see
 
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Originally Posted by onetwo
Torque numbers mean very little in these comparisons. Torque only tells you the degree of force that can be delivered at a specific instant (not important) while horsepower measures the actual amount of work that can be done by an engine over a period of time (important). I predict that the new M with "only" 295 ft-lbs of torque will manage to walk away from a chipped 400 ft-lbs torque 335i.
you are forgeting one key piece of info here. yea the e92 m3 has 414 bhp and 295 lb/ft of tq, but that 400 lb ft of tq 335 will be pushing around 400 hp as well, so thats important to take inot consideration.
 
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only time will tell, I guess. I have had my 335 for a week now and I love it. I definately can see alot of upside although I see the 335 more more as a "daily driver" type than an M3. It balances well the need for convenience, sportiness, power and handling.
 


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