Harry L emailed me the videos of the stage 3 suspension package at roebling road, I've watched it several times.. Looks like a fun track..
It's the pdk turbo video (boxster Spyder) that I keep watching.. I've seen it enough...
I have a pdk CR.. I just bought spare set of track wheels.. Next purchase is a trailex hauler...
I'm gonna get the stage 3 suspension kit.. First (I'm gonna do about three weekends on r tires/wheels and unless something drastically improves, I'll revisit the stage 3.. But mentally I feel like I should get it)

I know from driving at Daytona and Sebring the car could use a few extra horses... It's not a problem if your the only car out there.. You think it's fast until other cars start surrounding you...then you want just a little more power..
In my mind I want it but, I also have buyers remorse at the moment as well..

 

well considering anything you do the the car will void the warrenty anyway why not the only concern I see is the emissions ,depending on where you live if you drive the car on the street as well , i am lucky we have no emissions tests here so I am all for it !!!
the only other way is to go all out NA and you can achieve 50 to 75 more HP and just install the stock headers when you get the emissions done
the cost would be almost the same as the TPC though if you go down the list ,lets do the math

1.Catless headers $2500
2.Racing Exhaust $1800
3.Flash ECU $1000
4.Plenum -Gt Throttle body $900.00
5.UD pully $650.00
6.Flywheel $1300
7.Evoms air flow $500.00
8.De-snork FREE
9.lightweight battery $500.00
And of course the one that is the hardest ... Lose some body weight ..Man I hate that one !!!
Grand Total =$9150 for 40 to 50 more HP

Stage 1 TPC would be about the same cost as all the NA above so the best bang for your buck is TPC Stage 1 Turbo
$7500 plus installation EST-$2500 =10K for a solid 100 more HP
another 3 k or so Stage 2 TPC and youve got a Cayman with 450 HP and no one will stick with you on the track ... If I was driving ..

Just my 2 cents ..

 

Whoever is telling you these parts will get you 50-70hp is nuts. Stay away.

 

40 to 50 more HP has been achieved

 

I vote no on the turbo install. The Cay R is a marvelous car that drives great as-is. Leave the motor alone and enter time trial competition with PCA or NASA in your stock car on a good set of tires. Here you will be competing with other cars with similar hp/wt so the race will shift from your wallet to your driving skill.

A lot of guys get discouraged easily because so-and-so passed them in a more powerful car during an open track DE day. You can dump another 20K into your Cay R and the well driven Vettes, Vipers, and GT3s will still drive around you... and that pimply faced college kid in an Ariel Atom will drive around them. You can spend another $100k for the spare PDKs you will need, fully outfitted enclosed racing trailer, 5 sets of wheels with fresh racing slicks, diesel dually tow vehicle. At this point you may as well get a 997 CUP and run Grand AM. You cannot win a DE. There are no trophies and there will always be a faster car out there. It never ends.

JM .02C FWIW

 

Cajun. Thanks for the input.. The CR is a fast car.. You make good points .. I've seen many junk track cars that have tons of power and it makes u wonder.. But a shell of a car means nothing when your lap times are good .. I get this..
I'm keeping this CR for my lifetime.. No reason to sell. Its the first P to grace my presence.. I'm just deciding to mack it out and learn how to drive it before going to a cup car or gt3..
And another thing.. I'm not that guy.. I am humble.. I respect the car and the others around me.. Im happy I got the CR first.. Its what I needed.. A Gt3 would've been too much for me.. I know that... And this is coming from a road racer and Mx guy for half his life.. it's just the what ifs that cross ones mind from time to time

 

I've ruined plenty of cars with over modding... But kits from companies like tpc or ams are usually pretty good and drive able... I'd still not do it, car is good and balanced already... Track it alot and if you truly feel youve mastered it at 10/10ths... And want to keep it .. Then go turbo...

Me? Im gonna save that cash and eventually buy a gt3 rs hopefully lol

Sidenote- tpc or anyone solve any oil strvation at high G? I know the 987.2's aren't as prone

 

leave the r as is.
drive the hell out of it.
when you're ready, buy an rs.

 

StockKiller,

You are wise. I just spent the weekend with a student in his Cay R PDK at Willow Springs International Raceway. That car is a work of art! My personal favorite Porsche now. Enjoy it and drive it well.

 

Where in Florida are you? If possible, go pay a visit to John Tecce at BGB Motorsports in Ormand Beach. While I have the utmost respect for TPC and they are a great customer of mine, I think the 3.8l engine swaps BGB is doing on these cars is the wave of the future...


ps. If you don't have one of our LSDs in the car, you are leaving close to 2 seconds a lap on the table.

 

Matt,

Respectfully I beg to differ. It's not a matter of opinion, in fact, the turbo makes more power and torque everywhere at 1/3 of the price.

PS: you gotta see our new mid engine project car with so much power, it needs a Guard Diff. And of course it's turbocharged.

 

Harris,
No offense taken, and what you state are the facts. It's a fact that you can make more power for less with one of your turbos. I'm one of those retarded guys with an all motor bias. I spent $10k on a Subaru motor that made 60hp more than stock when for $4k I could have put a turbo on it and installed a standalone and made 100hp more than stock instead. I've got issues, and what I would do with my personal car usually doesn't make the most sense for the public at large.

A 3.8l swap is going to cost you $20k if you can find a low mileage takeout engine and ECU. If you go to the dealer and buy a crate motor or rebuild one, expect to be in for twice that. By that math, the TPC option is somewhere between 1/2 and 1/4 of the cost with no downside.

I spent about 20 minutes on the phone yesterday with a guy who has been running one of your kits on his car for 2 years. He said he couldn't be happier with it and also said that the aftersales support was second to none. He daily drives the car and considers it factory reliable, even if his actions voided his warranty.

In short, I cannot argue with the fact that a TPC turbo kit is more logical option than an engine swap. Like I said, I'm kind of special...

 

my question for stockkiller is are you really outdriving the R to the point you really need more power? Not questioning your driving skills, but just wondering what level your at to need that much more power. In the end, it may not do you any favors on the track.

 

I say...Just have TPC put the turbo in !!! and you have solved your problem .. the guy wants more power and this is the logical solution
Just do it!!

 

I just got a set of track wheels and I'm gonna do a few weekends on some race rubber..
You know it's a tough call.. Its not even about the money anymore .. I don't care about that, I'm over the cost of the project..
My tracks are Sebring n Daytona.. I'm a decent driver whose getting better each time out..
I can't say I drive all out 10/10ths .. Im at least a 7..
But if this car could be made a little better with suspension and just a touch more power ( and it does need a little extra hp, imo, ). Wouldn't you guys do it? Look at the recent sharkwerks CR project .. That has me foaming at the mouth again.. Maybe I'm bored..idk.. But why not tpc stage 3 and turbo.. If I do it it will be in August