Boxster Massive Power Upgrade
#1
Boxster Massive Power Upgrade
Hey guys, I'm just wondering what the possibilities are for power upgrades on the 987. I absolutely adore the 987, I like it more than the 911 but I also love the GT3 RS 4.0's engine and power. What can be done to the 987 to get it to the absolute maximum NA power. I've done alot of research into 911 engine swaps, race built closed deck bored/stroked blocks, power upgrade kits etc but I need some feedback and opinions as well as information.
Again I know people will say "save your money and get a 911" but this is about me liking the boxster so yh. I'm ready to spend quite alot on this guys, not to a money no object point but quite alot.
Again I know people will say "save your money and get a 911" but this is about me liking the boxster so yh. I'm ready to spend quite alot on this guys, not to a money no object point but quite alot.
#2
I think you are going to be looking at a motor swap - either doing a high-power 911 motor or maybe one of the V8 swaps. http://www.renegadehybrids.com/
#3
I don't want to do any V8 swaps or any other engines which aren't Porsche. It has to be a Porsche flat-6. The 3.4 in the Boxster S has shown good power. These cars lose alot less to the drivetrain than other cars but I was thinking more like the 500hp GT3 RS 4.0. It really would be a perfect car but it seems engine swaps from the 911 are difficult and need fabrication. The cost doesn't concern me but having to fabricate and find a good shop to do it is a really big problems.
#5
If you are set on engine swap... there are shops that will do it. There are actually a few videos on youtube of those swaps also. They are not easy, nor cheap... but done right-right, you get exactly factory reliability and serviceability. Used engines are min $10k to start, + wiring harness, +programming, + custom motor mounts, + R&R labor, plus, plus.
You can do basic bolt-on's with race headers/cats, competition plenum/GT3 TB, ECU tune and that will get you to the output of a 997.1 3.6 engine. I recently dyno'ed my '08 Boxster S with those mods... @ 297whp/279ft-lbs. Of course, once the 997 adds similar mods, all bets are off. Then again, the 997 guys are top dawgs only until the other guys show up with GT3RS, TT and GT2RS'es.
You can do basic bolt-on's with race headers/cats, competition plenum/GT3 TB, ECU tune and that will get you to the output of a 997.1 3.6 engine. I recently dyno'ed my '08 Boxster S with those mods... @ 297whp/279ft-lbs. Of course, once the 997 adds similar mods, all bets are off. Then again, the 997 guys are top dawgs only until the other guys show up with GT3RS, TT and GT2RS'es.
#6
If you are set on engine swap... there are shops that will do it. There are actually a few videos on youtube of those swaps also. They are not easy, nor cheap... but done right-right, you get exactly factory reliability and serviceability. Used engines are min $10k to start, + wiring harness, +programming, + custom motor mounts, + R&R labor, plus, plus.
You can do basic bolt-on's with race headers/cats, competition plenum/GT3 TB, ECU tune and that will get you to the output of a 997.1 3.6 engine. I recently dyno'ed my '08 Boxster S with those mods... @ 297whp/279ft-lbs. Of course, once the 997 adds similar mods, all bets are off. Then again, the 997 guys are top dawgs only until the other guys show up with GT3RS, TT and GT2RS'es.
You can do basic bolt-on's with race headers/cats, competition plenum/GT3 TB, ECU tune and that will get you to the output of a 997.1 3.6 engine. I recently dyno'ed my '08 Boxster S with those mods... @ 297whp/279ft-lbs. Of course, once the 997 adds similar mods, all bets are off. Then again, the 997 guys are top dawgs only until the other guys show up with GT3RS, TT and GT2RS'es.
I need it to be NA.
#7
If you're planning to make this a DIY...then, yes... custom fab may be more a time consuming.. but you can def find shops (FVD and RUF) that have done it before.... they have the lesson learned.
From what I've read thus far on these swaps... the custom fab is around the motor mounts, b/c the 3.8 is taller than 3.4 and will require the mounts lowered to accommodate the taller engine. here are two threads around swaps...
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...-radiator.html
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...6-boxster.html
This is a good video showing how a 3.6 Boxster runs with a 3.8 997 @ Sebring... def fun!
From what I've read thus far on these swaps... the custom fab is around the motor mounts, b/c the 3.8 is taller than 3.4 and will require the mounts lowered to accommodate the taller engine. here are two threads around swaps...
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...-radiator.html
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...6-boxster.html
This is a good video showing how a 3.6 Boxster runs with a 3.8 997 @ Sebring... def fun!
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#8
[QUOTE=e.ward;3799467]Hey guys, I'm just wondering what the possibilities are for power upgrades on the 987. I absolutely adore the 987, I like it more than the 911 but I also love the GT3 RS 4.0's engine and power. What can be done to the 987 to get it to the absolute maximum NA power. I've done alot of research into 911 engine swaps, race built closed deck bored/stroked blocks, power upgrade kits etc but I need some feedback and opinions as well as information.
The best way is to rebuild the engine with bigger & stronger cylinder sleeves & pistons. This will give you 3.6L. While the engine is apart you can install a 997 crank to increase stroke & give you 3.8L. Proper head work to match the engine size & reflash the DME. lnengineering.com installs the sleeves & has many upgrade parts.
The best way is to rebuild the engine with bigger & stronger cylinder sleeves & pistons. This will give you 3.6L. While the engine is apart you can install a 997 crank to increase stroke & give you 3.8L. Proper head work to match the engine size & reflash the DME. lnengineering.com installs the sleeves & has many upgrade parts.
#9
If you want 400-500whp n/a, go with an LS3/LS7 swap. It will be much cheaper than staying with a flat 6 and you will make more torque.
The engine can't be seen in a 987 and you can do whatever you want with the exhaust to tone it down or make it scream. Sound would be the only give away that there is more lurking under the engine cover.
The engine can't be seen in a 987 and you can do whatever you want with the exhaust to tone it down or make it scream. Sound would be the only give away that there is more lurking under the engine cover.
#10
You can look at the v8 swap that White Out did with his car here as well - https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...1-content.html
As cool as a Boxster with the 4.0 GT3 motor would be, I think the costs involved make it silly to go that route instead of doing a tried-and-true LS swap.
As cool as a Boxster with the 4.0 GT3 motor would be, I think the costs involved make it silly to go that route instead of doing a tried-and-true LS swap.
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