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Old 05-27-2009, 11:47 PM
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Hi there,

I was taught how to drive manual through shifters.ca by the owner Carlos Tomas. The one thing that Carlos stresses not to do is to try to avoid downshifting when stopping. It's in his F.A.Q.'s section of his website too.

Do you guys ever downshift when approaching a stop sign? If so, who taught you how to do this? I've been reading conflicting views on what to do in various forums.

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i do it all the time, i taught myself. I try to rev match... Been trying to Heel/Toe while down shifting, still working on that tho... Im guessing he said not to do it, because its probaly more ware on the Clutch, but dude my car sounds sooo good...

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downshifting is awesome!
 
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the reason it is not taught is so you won't be in the habit if you are ever on a race track...compression braking is not used on track because of the probability of a missed downshift and subsequent grenading of an expensive engine due to a mechanical over rev...it will also likely throw the car out of control at high speed say, if you went from 5th to 2nd instead of 4th
 
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Originally Posted by VSE Chuck
the reason it is not taught is so you won't be in the habit if you are ever on a race track...compression braking is not used on track because of the probability of a missed downshift and subsequent grenading of an expensive engine due to a mechanical over rev...it will also likely throw the car out of control at high speed say, if you went from 5th to 2nd instead of 4th
Great response!
 
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Originally Posted by VSE Chuck
the reason it is not taught is so you won't be in the habit if you are ever on a race track...compression braking is not used on track because of the probability of a missed downshift and subsequent grenading of an expensive engine due to a mechanical over rev...it will also likely throw the car out of control at high speed say, if you went from 5th to 2nd instead of 4th
I also learned to drive standard from Shifters too, and this is exactly the reason they gave. We did practice some downshifting just for the fun of it, but he did say that its generally unnecessary in daily traffic (especially tiresome with heavy clutches), and its something that you should only start doing when you've become really comfortable with your car.
 
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downshifting is awesome!
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You don't downshift when you're stopping because you use the brakes to stop not your tranny.
 
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You don't downshift when you're stopping because you use the brakes to stop not your tranny.
My Brakes cost more than my Clutch to Replace...
 
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HAHAHAH!!! yea you wearing the White Pimp shoes tonight?
 
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Originally Posted by Zookie
i do it all the time, i taught myself. I try to rev match... Been trying to Heel/Toe while down shifting, still working on that tho... Im guessing he said not to do it, because its probaly more ware on the Clutch, but dude my car sounds sooo good...

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Hi Zookie,

I can show off my non-skills at the Friday meets. I still have to mentally pause and think of which gear I should be in when i downshift on the highway.

I've always wanted to taste an authentic gelato and make out with a hot Italian girl. Perhaps i can kill two birds with one stone as the meet is in Woodbridge. i.e. Italy of Ontario.

Good Luck w/ your speeding infraction,
 
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Originally Posted by c2gta
Hi Zookie,

I can show off my non-skills at the Friday meets. I still have to mentally pause and think of which gear I should be in when i downshift on the highway.

I've always wanted to taste an authentic gelato and make out with a hot Italian girl. Perhaps i can kill two birds with one stone as the meet is in Woodbridge. i.e. Italy of Ontario.

Good Luck w/ your speeding infraction,
lol i guess we will see you friday night then.

Thanks
 
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The main reason is that in traffic, if you know you're coming to a full stop, there is no reason to put wear & tear on the clutch. A clutch change is more expensive than a brake job. It's a different story if you're slowing down but not coming to a full stop, then you obviously need to downshift. I've seen people coming to a full stop downshift every gear from 4th to 1st, then stop completely. Pointless IMO.
 


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