Question- Braking
#31
06-01-2010, 09:43 PM
If you went from stock to performance with no change at all, I would not look at the mechanical aspects any further. I would instead focus on the hydraulics. Ideally, you should hit the phones and call local (non-dealer) shops that work on Pcars. Explain the steps you went through and see if you get someone that has seen it before. Sorry you went through the expense with no gains 
#32
06-01-2010, 10:26 PM
Google "Magnuson Moss"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson–Moss_Warranty_Act
They can't void any part of your warranty, period. They can only refuse to cover a failure that they can prove wa caused directly by the aftermarket product.
#33
06-02-2010, 06:03 AM
bcherry
i have the same problem and also have taken my to the dealer a few different times for this issue. they have replace most if not all the braking system and still can not get it to brake anywere close to a new or test model. i will look at the paper work and confirm everything that was replaced and let you know, but the problem seems that most of the stoppinb power is comming from the rears. for some reason we can not get the fronts to do most of the work as they should. are your rear brakes doing most the work?
i have the same problem and also have taken my to the dealer a few different times for this issue. they have replace most if not all the braking system and still can not get it to brake anywere close to a new or test model. i will look at the paper work and confirm everything that was replaced and let you know, but the problem seems that most of the stoppinb power is comming from the rears. for some reason we can not get the fronts to do most of the work as they should. are your rear brakes doing most the work?
#35
06-02-2010, 06:22 PM
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Orem UT
Posts: 45
Rep Power: 17 
If you went from stock to performance with no change at all, I would not look at the mechanical aspects any further. I would instead focus on the hydraulics. Ideally, you should hit the phones and call local (non-dealer) shops that work on Pcars. Explain the steps you went through and see if you get someone that has seen it before. Sorry you went through the expense with no gains
#36
06-02-2010, 06:23 PM
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Orem UT
Posts: 45
Rep Power: 17 Google "Magnuson Moss"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson–Moss_Warranty_Act
They can't void any part of your warranty, period. They can only refuse to cover a failure that they can prove wa caused directly by the aftermarket product.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson–Moss_Warranty_Act
They can't void any part of your warranty, period. They can only refuse to cover a failure that they can prove wa caused directly by the aftermarket product.
thank you for the ammo, i'll definitely being using this!
#37
06-02-2010, 06:24 PM
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Orem UT
Posts: 45
Rep Power: 17 bcherry
i have the same problem and also have taken my to the dealer a few different times for this issue. they have replace most if not all the braking system and still can not get it to brake anywere close to a new or test model. i will look at the paper work and confirm everything that was replaced and let you know, but the problem seems that most of the stoppinb power is comming from the rears. for some reason we can not get the fronts to do most of the work as they should. are your rear brakes doing most the work?
i have the same problem and also have taken my to the dealer a few different times for this issue. they have replace most if not all the braking system and still can not get it to brake anywere close to a new or test model. i will look at the paper work and confirm everything that was replaced and let you know, but the problem seems that most of the stoppinb power is comming from the rears. for some reason we can not get the fronts to do most of the work as they should. are your rear brakes doing most the work?
yes, it seems like the rears are doing most of the work, the front just never grabs. And like i wrote at the beginning, in order to even activate the ABS i have to be on gravel or snow or something, it won't even work on wet pavement... agh!
#38
06-02-2010, 06:25 PM
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Orem UT
Posts: 45
Rep Power: 17 Thanks...
#39
06-02-2010, 06:27 PM
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Orem UT
Posts: 45
Rep Power: 17 Thanks
#40
06-02-2010, 08:37 PM
bcherry
i have the very same problem. i can only get the ABS to work in snow and gravel. even on wet roads i can not get it to activate. i have a list of the items that have been replaced that i will post, but still no luck with fixing the problem.
i have the very same problem. i can only get the ABS to work in snow and gravel. even on wet roads i can not get it to activate. i have a list of the items that have been replaced that i will post, but still no luck with fixing the problem.
#42
06-04-2010, 03:39 PM
WOW, i thought I was the only one. 06 CTTS, same problem. Bought it second hand, all was fine before. Then one day, same thing, thought i was going to rear end... Did some research, thinking the brake fuild is old+cooked, so I order SS Brake line, waiting on them to come in to get them installed with a full flush. Going with ATE Super Blue as well, dont mind flushing once a year. As I will do anything not to feel what I felt that day. Now I drive 5 cars lenght behind anyone, in a CTTS!!! when I clearly should and was 5 cars ahead 
. P.S. felt this 3 times already, brake start hard for a moment and then spoonges... 380mm rotors up front...
P.S. brake pads are factory 50% all around, rotors are fine, very lightly grooved.
. P.S. felt this 3 times already, brake start hard for a moment and then spoonges... 380mm rotors up front...P.S. brake pads are factory 50% all around, rotors are fine, very lightly grooved.
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