PTV or PDCC
#16
You know, it's pretty ridiculous that Porsche bundles PDCC and PTV into a package which saves you money but only offers it with a steering wheel that many don't want because they loose the multi-functions and many others don't want because it isn't heated.
They shouldn't offer a steering wheel on a vehicle of this caliber without the paddles in the first place. Those other things, whatever they are called, are totally worthless.
They shouldn't offer a steering wheel on a vehicle of this caliber without the paddles in the first place. Those other things, whatever they are called, are totally worthless.
Rick, JCBH thank you for sharing your experiences on PDCC. I am probably one of the biggest proponent on 6speed for PDCC/PTV....and I haven't even driven one with these
#17
You know, it's pretty ridiculous that Porsche bundles PDCC and PTV into a package which saves you money but only offers it with a steering wheel that many don't want because they loose the multi-functions and many others don't want because it isn't heated.
They shouldn't offer a steering wheel on a vehicle of this caliber without the paddles in the first place. Those other things, whatever they are called, are totally worthless.
They shouldn't offer a steering wheel on a vehicle of this caliber without the paddles in the first place. Those other things, whatever they are called, are totally worthless.
#18
You're welcome. PDCC is so great, as is PTV.
We test-drove Turbo's back to back on the same windy roads on Friday afternoon, and both my wife and I had the same feeling...we couldn't live without both options. We test drove the Range Rover Supercharged last week (she wanted to try it) and that was the biggest complaint. It was so top-heavy and leaned on curvy roads to the point that my wife felt that it would "tip over!" Of course it wouldn't have, but the sensation was magnified once we got in the 2011 Cayenne Turbo with PDCC/PTV. Night and day between the Rover, as well as the 2011 Turbo without it. A huge value.
We test-drove Turbo's back to back on the same windy roads on Friday afternoon, and both my wife and I had the same feeling...we couldn't live without both options. We test drove the Range Rover Supercharged last week (she wanted to try it) and that was the biggest complaint. It was so top-heavy and leaned on curvy roads to the point that my wife felt that it would "tip over!" Of course it wouldn't have, but the sensation was magnified once we got in the 2011 Cayenne Turbo with PDCC/PTV. Night and day between the Rover, as well as the 2011 Turbo without it. A huge value.
#19
gotcha - I went a la carte to get the wheel I bought - I didn't like the stalk-controller w/ the sport wheel (and I admittedly wouldn't use the paddles which is why the choice was easy). Bottom line: Porsche has ALWAYS done this w/ the options/packages/etc. - but for the premium pkg plus (which I was thankful for), my cost would have shot up over 100k. But the thread is about pdcc/ptv so forgive my digression.
#20
my dad ordered a audi q5 with sport package and it comes with a heated MF with paddle shifters and also is $70k less than my ctt
#21
You're welcome. PDCC is so great, as is PTV.
We test-drove Turbo's back to back on the same windy roads on Friday afternoon, and both my wife and I had the same feeling...we couldn't live without both options. We test drove the Range Rover Supercharged last week (she wanted to try it) and that was the biggest complaint. It was so top-heavy and leaned on curvy roads to the point that my wife felt that it would "tip over!" Of course it wouldn't have, but the sensation was magnified once we got in the 2011 Cayenne Turbo with PDCC/PTV. Night and day between the Rover, as well as the 2011 Turbo without it. A huge value.
We test-drove Turbo's back to back on the same windy roads on Friday afternoon, and both my wife and I had the same feeling...we couldn't live without both options. We test drove the Range Rover Supercharged last week (she wanted to try it) and that was the biggest complaint. It was so top-heavy and leaned on curvy roads to the point that my wife felt that it would "tip over!" Of course it wouldn't have, but the sensation was magnified once we got in the 2011 Cayenne Turbo with PDCC/PTV. Night and day between the Rover, as well as the 2011 Turbo without it. A huge value.
That was precisely the feeling I had w/ my RRSC - 500HP of scary-as-sh** driving in the mountains - I'd find myself at 80+ mph and feeling like I was listing to and fro like a kayak in a jet ski's wake - took my hit and dumped the car after 2 months (plus electronics/stereo/ergonomics on the RRSC are among the worst I've ever had). I just got back from skiing w/ the family and the drive from my house in Park City down into the Salt Lake valley and then back up into Little Cottonwood Canyon to Brighton, my CS drove like a dream (even my wife conceded defeat among who has the better mountain car - she's in a new Subaru Outback 3.6R). Get em' both and drive happy. And if spending the money is making you balk, there are certainly other great cars out there (Outback, Q7, Q5, Taureg, etc.) that handle great in the muck and will drive great on the road (as you can see I've got two mountain goats of different breeds - one from Japan and one from Germany) and I had a '07 Audi A8 which, but for the low clearance, would have been my mountain car (go Quattro!). The anti-roll and stability features of both options is, imho, worth the money b/c I feel safer.
#23
Yes, PASM helps with vehicle stability/control. WHen I test drove a CS with PASM, there was discernible bodyroll on sharp turns. May not bother 95% of the drivers. But it certainly bothered me.
#24
As far as I know, Q5 doesn't offer heated steering wheel or Sport package in the U.S. Only the S Line package, and no heated steering wheel period.
#25
You're right - i meant S line package. Q5 still has a MF wheel with shifters and heated wheel on Porsche is a joke anyway
#26
WHy would you say that . Every single person who lives in a cold weather area love their heated steering wheel .
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#27
My RR has a dedicated switch to turn on or off and you can actually feel the heat. That's a true heated steering wheel.
#28
the heat is barely noticeable and not sure if they changed it, but Porsche tells you when its OK to turn the wheel on and there is no control to turn it on or off.
My RR has a dedicated switch to turn on or off and you can actually feel the heat. That's a true heated steering wheel.
My RR has a dedicated switch to turn on or off and you can actually feel the heat. That's a true heated steering wheel.
#29
OK Computatora - you are partially right...the 2010 and prior Cayenne's had no dedicated steering wheel switch, but the 2011's do - it is behind the steering wheel, on the bottom...same as the 911's, etc.. I tried ours the other night and it was fantastic...you definitely felt it. I had to turn it off after a few minutes!
#30
OK Computatora - you are partially right...the 2010 and prior Cayenne's had no dedicated steering wheel switch, but the 2011's do - it is behind the steering wheel, on the bottom...same as the 911's, etc.. I tried ours the other night and it was fantastic...you definitely felt it. I had to turn it off after a few minutes!
That's great to know, JCBH. I was thinking maybe I made a mistake by not getting the sport wheel, but you've confirmed I made the right choice, living in New Hampshire.