CTTS (380mm) Rotors in a CTT (350mm)
#1
CTTS (380mm) Rotors in a CTT (350mm)
Has anyone on here with a Cayenne Turbo, installed the Turbo S brake rotors into their car?
I was wondering what would be needed to accomplish this.
I am talking 2003-2006 generation
The CTT has front rotors that are 350mm size.
The CTTS has front rotors that are 380mm size.
The size difference is 30mm or about 1 and 1/8 of an inch.
Would I need to replace calipers too? Pads? Anything else would need to be replaced?
Thanks for the help.
I was wondering what would be needed to accomplish this.
I am talking 2003-2006 generation
The CTT has front rotors that are 350mm size.
The CTTS has front rotors that are 380mm size.
The size difference is 30mm or about 1 and 1/8 of an inch.
Would I need to replace calipers too? Pads? Anything else would need to be replaced?
Thanks for the help.
#2
I'm pretty sure those rotors will not fit under the standard Turbo calipers. You could upgrade to Turbo S calipers, or build a bracket to space your caliper out a little further. If you upgrade calipers, you'll need the correct pads as well.
#4
Yes. porscheSpeedDemon upgraded his CTT to CTTS calipers, rotors, backing plates, pads.
He has to run 19" wheels for winters now.
Personally, I don't see the advantage. The parts are about 4x more expensive than the already powerful CTT brakes and you limit your wheel choices.
The CTTS parts are basically a 1 year limited production vehicle part. While the CTT brakes were also on the S and Touraregs. So much easier and cheaper to get replacement parts for.
He has to run 19" wheels for winters now.
Personally, I don't see the advantage. The parts are about 4x more expensive than the already powerful CTT brakes and you limit your wheel choices.
The CTTS parts are basically a 1 year limited production vehicle part. While the CTT brakes were also on the S and Touraregs. So much easier and cheaper to get replacement parts for.
#5
Yes. porscheSpeedDemon upgraded his CTT to CTTS calipers, rotors, backing plates, pads.
He has to run 19" wheels for winters now.
Personally, I don't see the advantage. The parts are about 4x more expensive than the already powerful CTT brakes and you limit your wheel choices.
The CTTS parts are basically a 1 year limited production vehicle part. While the CTT brakes were also on the S and Touraregs. So much easier and cheaper to get replacement parts for.
He has to run 19" wheels for winters now.
Personally, I don't see the advantage. The parts are about 4x more expensive than the already powerful CTT brakes and you limit your wheel choices.
The CTTS parts are basically a 1 year limited production vehicle part. While the CTT brakes were also on the S and Touraregs. So much easier and cheaper to get replacement parts for.
Last edited by porschespeeddemon; 10-12-2012 at 09:29 PM.
#6
i am not fully sure i want to go this way yet. I am trying to understand the cost and effort infolved first.
How do the 2 piece rotors differ from the standard turbo brakes visually? anyone have pictures to compare? Trying to see how they are different (Turbo S vs Turbo).
Thanks.
How do the 2 piece rotors differ from the standard turbo brakes visually? anyone have pictures to compare? Trying to see how they are different (Turbo S vs Turbo).
Thanks.
#7
I have looked at images of the 350mm rotors for Turbo and the 380mm rotors for Turbo S, and I do not see any difference in them.
Some reference the 380mm rotors are 2 piece design. Can anyone explain exactly how the 380mm rotors look like so I can spot them when viewing?
And, why are the 380mm rotors so much more expensive than the 350mm. Diff is in size but hardly enough to justify 1000 bucks more. Still done same way on same machines probably.
Thanks.
Some reference the 380mm rotors are 2 piece design. Can anyone explain exactly how the 380mm rotors look like so I can spot them when viewing?
And, why are the 380mm rotors so much more expensive than the 350mm. Diff is in size but hardly enough to justify 1000 bucks more. Still done same way on same machines probably.
Thanks.
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#8
Normal Turbo:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1344239464.jpg
Turbo S
http://www.evoms.com/WebSiteUsers/ev...enneTTBBK1.jpg
Note these aren't my pics, just some a quick search on google came up with.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1344239464.jpg
Turbo S
http://www.evoms.com/WebSiteUsers/ev...enneTTBBK1.jpg
Note these aren't my pics, just some a quick search on google came up with.
#9
mine is not a TT S, but the brakes look like the ones in the TT S you showed here, except for the slotted rotors (mine are not slotted - but about to change when I do brakes soon).
The turbo one you showed seems to have been painted red, is that correct? Mine has the Porsche logos.
The turbo one you showed seems to have been painted red, is that correct? Mine has the Porsche logos.
Normal Turbo:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1344239464.jpg
Turbo S
http://www.evoms.com/WebSiteUsers/ev...enneTTBBK1.jpg
Note these aren't my pics, just some a quick search on google came up with.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1344239464.jpg
Turbo S
http://www.evoms.com/WebSiteUsers/ev...enneTTBBK1.jpg
Note these aren't my pics, just some a quick search on google came up with.
#10
The main thing I was trying to illustrate is the 2 piece rotor. The first picture, the caliper decals were just worn off or were being replaced. Same caliper. Also you can see the larger bracket on the Turbo S caliper that spaces it away to make room for a larger rotor. It sounds like you're likely better off just upgrading your standard Turbo brakes, there are a lot of options when doing so. I have some pics of my own conversion somewhere, will see if I can find them I was using drilled/slotted rotors on the standard brakes for a while until I replaced.
(Click the pic to enlarge)
Standard brakes under 19s:
http://image66.webshots.com/766/9/19...1bXbsJt_fs.jpg
Turbo S brakes under 20s:
http://image83.webshots.com/183/8/85...1WGXSNj_fs.jpg
(Click the pic to enlarge)
Standard brakes under 19s:
http://image66.webshots.com/766/9/19...1bXbsJt_fs.jpg
Turbo S brakes under 20s:
http://image83.webshots.com/183/8/85...1WGXSNj_fs.jpg
Last edited by porschespeeddemon; 10-18-2012 at 06:13 PM.
#12
Thanks! Photoshop CS3. Duplicated original layer, black and white converted duplicate, used eraser tool to erase black and white off of the color layer beneath, in a nutshell.
#13
I dont see a 2 piece rotor in that second pic. Where are the two pieces? Educate me please.
The main thing I was trying to illustrate is the 2 piece rotor. The first picture, the caliper decals were just worn off or were being replaced. Same caliper. Also you can see the larger bracket on the Turbo S caliper that spaces it away to make room for a larger rotor. It sounds like you're likely better off just upgrading your standard Turbo brakes, there are a lot of options when doing so. I have some pics of my own conversion somewhere, will see if I can find them I was using drilled/slotted rotors on the standard brakes for a while until I replaced.
(Click the pic to enlarge)
Standard brakes under 19s:
http://image66.webshots.com/766/9/19...1bXbsJt_fs.jpg
Turbo S brakes under 20s:
http://image83.webshots.com/183/8/85...1WGXSNj_fs.jpg
(Click the pic to enlarge)
Standard brakes under 19s:
http://image66.webshots.com/766/9/19...1bXbsJt_fs.jpg
Turbo S brakes under 20s:
http://image83.webshots.com/183/8/85...1WGXSNj_fs.jpg
#14
The first pic the entire rotor is all one piece; the disk and the hat. In the second pic, the disk and the rotor hat are bolted together, and also the hat is, I believe, some sort of stainless material, as it rarely discolors and cleans up very easily. That is the main visual difference between the original 2 photo links I posted. In the first pic, the whole rotor is one piece, and with the EVOMS kit, you can see the center section bolts to the disk.